full-disclosure - Re: password hash, funny myth in the industry!

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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:46:58 -0400
From: <full-disclosure@...hmail.com>
To: <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>,<gautam.bipin@...il.com>
Subject: Re: password hash, funny myth in the industry!

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Hi 3APAPA,

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:30:56 -0400 Bipin Gautam
<gautam.bipin@...il.com> wrote:
>hi list,
>i was reading the article, http://www.f-
>secure.com/weblog/archives/00001293.html
>but just an example.

blah blah blah, this is full-disclosure not some dear diary/myspace
bullshit,

>why do many people out there think password hash "can't be" as
>good as
>the password itself and needs to be computed/cracked first before
>it
>can be used?

dunno why don't you tell me?

>Consider the fact, many websites/forums don't use password
>hash+salt,
>just password hash( generally SHA1, MD5) that gets computer client
>side and POSTED to the web-forum for user authentication.

done

>If someone can sniff this, given that, user name is available
>using
>simple GUI tools as 'Tamper Data' ( firefox plug in ) even a low
>tech
>malicious user can log on with someones credentials without having
>to
>crack the password hash, instead just using the password hash
>itself
>manipulating the POST request.
>
>makes sense? :)

no please clarify!!!

>thanks,
>-bipin
>
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