full-disclosure - Re: TCP Hijacking (aka Man-in-the-Middle)

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Message-ID: <1444746436.20071026124137@SECURITY.NNOV.RU>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:41:37 +0400
From: 3APA3A <3APA3A@...URITY.NNOV.RU>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
Cc: Oliver <olivereatsolives@...il.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: TCP Hijacking (aka Man-in-the-Middle)

Dear Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu,

During  blind  TCP  spoofing  you can send data, but you can not receive
one.  That's  why  it's  blind. The general idea is to insert some data,
e.g.  commands  into telnet session or HTTP request into established TCP
connection.  Usually, you have only one packet to insert, because, after
connection is spoofed, sequence number go out of order and hijacked side
will  reply with RST (unless you can blindly guess both sequence numbers
and predict the moment another side will sent some data with accuracy of
approximately  100ms.  In this case both sides can consider extra packet
as  a  duplicate and ignore it).

So,  generally, 1. there is no reason to spoof both connections. 2. it's
only possible if sequence number is 100% (or close to 100%) predictable.

--Friday, October 26, 2007, 1:14:23 AM, you wrote to 3APA3A@...URITY.NNOV.RU:

VKve> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 00:43:10 +0400, 3APA3A said:

>>  Randomized ISN doesn't protect against MitM.

VKve> Doing  a  MitM  is  basically just spoofing two connections at the
VKve> same  time. If you know how to do one, you know how to do two. And
VKve> if  you  know  how  to do one of them *blind*, it vastly increases
VKve> your  options  (as  you only need to be able to see the traffic in
VKve> one direction rather than both).

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