full-disclosure - Re: spammer wades into US Presidential race

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Message-ID: <19315.1193673807@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:03:27 -0400
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To: lericksen@...global.net
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: spammer wades into US Presidential race

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:35:04 CDT, Leif Ericksen said:

> Yes the president can send the troops to war.
> Congress is needed to declare war (the president can not do it)
> See the following:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States
> 
> After World War II, Congress voluntarily limited its use of the power to
> declare war to issuing authorizations of force.

Right.  And Congress wussed out and gave Bush basically a blank check
and hasn't gone back to change its mind.  They gave him that authorization.

> Two weeks ago, during a hearing in the House International Relations
> committee, 
> 
> ****I attempted to force the committee to follow the Constitution and
> vote to declare war with Iraq.**** 
> 
> COMMENT: If Ron Paul is the author of that Vote for me and I will end
> the war he is contradicting himself the the statement found in the link
> I have provided and just outlined.  Does that mean a lie?  Dishonesty?

No, what he did, near as I can tell, was to tell Congress to actually get
*serious*, and if they wanted a *war* to *declare* a war, rather than some
mamby-pamby "authorization to use force".  Congress proved not to have
the collective cojones to Do The Right Thing.

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