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Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 22:11:18 +0100 From: Thierry Zoller <Thierry@...ler.lu> To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: Exploit Brokering Dear Simon, Well if it wasn't obvious enough let me rephrase. >> SS> What happens if they sell to a hostile >> SS> foreign party, what could happen to them, etc...? >> Maybe they pereive your party as a hostile foreign party, this list is >> obviously not based in the US. SS> What's your point? I think my point is very clear, those trying to find a buyer on this list (who you are directly speaking to in your post) are maybe not interested in selling to US based parties. You assume they are. To make this even clearer : SS>Do they ever stop to think SS> about the potential liability? What happens if they sell to a hostile SS>foreign party, what, what could happen to them, etc...? Maybe the hostile foreign party for them is the USA. >>> The solution is to work with legitimate established businesses >>> in a confidential and responsible manner. >> If you are responsible you surely can disclose who you are selling >> them too ? SS> That would be irresponsible. Why would disclosing who you are selling them to be irresponsible ? You argue that those seeking to sell over FD are "carelss and irresponsible". Now why if they sell them to you makes them less "careless and irresponsible" since they still don't know with whom the information will end up with. >> Are you even disclosing this to the person that you >> bought them from ? When not does this make you any better than >> the "others" ? SS> I have no idea what you are asking me here. Are you disclosing _to the person_ you bought the bugs from, to whom you are going to sell them ? If not I don't see the interest why they should choose you over others for ethical reasons. -- http://secdev.zoller.lu Thierry Zoller Fingerprint : 5D84 BFDC CD36 A951 2C45 2E57 28B3 75DD 0AC6 F1C7 _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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