full-disclosure - Re: Standing Up Against German Laws

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Message-ID: <20071110182047.GA3957@ngolde.de>
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:20:47 +0100
From: Nico Golde <fd@...lde.de>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project
	HayNeedle

Hi Paul,
* Paul Sebastian Ziegler <psz@...erved.de> [2007-11-10 18:33]:
> as most of you may have heard the German government passed a law today
> that will lead to all connections being logged for 6 months. This
> includes phone calls as well as all internet connections.
[...] 
> The mechanism is quite easy: It searches Google for random words and
> picks random pages among the results, then spiders from there (well it
> is spidering except that it only follows one URL at a time within a
> session thus simulating a user).

How would this help with stored phone calls? How would this 
help with the general problem?

While I think it is nice that you think about doing 
something against this I don't really like your idea since 
you totally miss that traffic does not only mean HTTP so I 
don't really see any point of not just using gpg,tor, etc.

You write "This way it is very hard to tell which 
connections are actually made by the user thus generating 
plausible deniability." on your website and I also don't 
think this is valid because noone cares if it was you or an 
application creating this traffic, it also does not 
prevent people to store your traffic and I would aspect them  
to have pretty good methods to devide important and 
unimportant traffic ;)

Cheers
Nico
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Nico Golde - JAB: nion@...ber.ccc.de | GPG: 0x73647CFF
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