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Message-ID: <D57F923F19B89743A8CA3EED3B37713A08587413@ISOEMAILP3.iso.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:10:32 -0500
From: "North, Quinn" <QNorth@....com>
To: "Morning Wood" <se_cur_ity@...mail.com>,
	"James Rankin" <kz20fl@...glemail.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: RIPA powers being used

...Can't they just use the NSA created backdoor to bypass the
encryption?  ;-)

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-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Morning
Wood
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 12:52 PM
To: James Rankin; full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] RIPA powers being used

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Rankin" <kz20fl@...glemail.com>
To: <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 3:46 AM
Subject: [Full-disclosure] RIPA powers being used


> RIPA is finally being used to force people to hand over encryption
keys...
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7102180.stm
>
omg wtf...

"In the event that there was doubt that a suspect did not possess a key,
he 
said, it was up to the prosecution to demonstrate beyond a reasonable
doubt 
that they could know the passphrase"



ever fat finger a password? ever forgot a password? ( I got a zip
archive I 
protected and cant unlock due to the fact I forgot the passphrase )

looks like prosecuters and judges will now be ASSUMING guilt or
innocence 
based on whaty they THINK MIGHT be true. ( if you created the passphrase
you 
must know it )

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