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Message-ID: <12693.1198297603@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 23:26:43 -0500
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To: worried security <worriedsecurity@...glemail.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Fwd: Chat with Dude VanWinkle

On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:11:22 GMT, worried security said:

> In 5 to 10 years n3td3v should be an elite force of people from
> corporate,government,military,intelligence,law and freelance ethical
> hackers that is way bigger than any other group on the internet.

The only problem is that the talent pool is quite shallow, and there simply
aren't enough people to make a group that's both "an elite force" and
"way bigger".  It's even more difficult when you consider that most of the
actually elite people are already busy with membership in too many groups
already, and won't be interested in joining another one unless they see
some *clear* benefit not already provided by any groups they are already in.

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