full-disclosure - Re: PWDumpX v1.4 (and GUI:s)

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Message-ID: <20080110102819.GA1672@dynamit.im.pwr.wroc.pl>
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:28:19 +0100
From: Stanislaw Klekot <dozzie@...amit.im.pwr.wroc.pl>
To: Markus Jansson <markus.jansson@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: PWDumpX v1.4 (and GUI:s)

On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 09:36:07PM +0200, Markus Jansson wrote:
> OK, OK, I get your point. If you use GUI, you are lamer, because you
> could do fine without them 20 years ago so you should be able to do
> just fine without them now too. Its just "lazy mans way of doing
> things" to use GUI, and especially lazy and "now knowledge enought
> peoples" way of doing things.

Nope. It's just a more convenient way of doing things. I understand that
you can't imagine that someone could use this tool not as standalone
tool, but as a part of some script in bigger system. With GUI-only
programs it's very difficult. On the other side, writing for command
line tools a frontend in Tcl/Tk, Perl/Tk, PyGTK or anything else is very
easy.

> Wake up to this day people. Things evolve. DOS is 20 years old stuff.
> If you are still running only DOS or other command line OS stuff, I
> think that you really should concider upgrading to OS and stuff that
> have clean, easy and fast GUI:s.

Hey, wake up. Your small desktop is not a center of the world. There are
systems where command line is an essential.

> (BTW. My doubleclicking on desktop icon is maybe 200x faster than you
> writing two lines of command line crap to get the program to do the
> same thing I make it do with just doubleclicking it with my mouse.)

Bullshit. I've never seen anybody who can point an icon and click it
in shorter time than the time that casual admin needs to write
a single-word command (you can write a script or alias for commonly used
commands).

-- 
Stanislaw Klekot

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