full-disclosure - Re: what is this?

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Message-ID: <12933.1200610965@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:02:45 -0500
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To: damncon <damncon@...il.com>
Cc: Untitled <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>,
	PenTest <pen-test@...urityfocus.com>, bugtraq@...urityfocus.com,
	Gadi Evron <ge@...uxbox.org>
Subject: Re: what is this?

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:44:19 -0300, damncon said:
> your comments are so fucking shitty, the articles you write are so
> fucking useless (Web Server Botnets and Server Farms as Attack
> Platforms), DONT YOU GET FUCKING TIRED OF ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT THE
> SAME BLABLABLA BOTNETDDOSRFI SHIT?

One of my co-workers has a rubber stamp that says "I told you about this in 19__",
which is still seeing use.

Quite frankly, many of us in the security industry get *tired* of always
talking about the "same blah blah shit".  It's why I stopped contributing
to the SANS/FBI Top 20 list every year - industry-wide, the *same exact
problems* were still the biggest issues.  But it's very much the lose-lose
proposition - if we keep talking about the *same* issues, we're flamed about
it, and when we try to raise awareness of an actual *new* issue, we're accused
of grandstanding.

Also, you have to remember that in many cases, we need to get the attention
of Corporate Suits - and unless it gets said forty-leven times, they don't
notice.

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