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Message-ID: <2d6724810802120035v2102b2aai9d006ebf1144965@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:35:42 -0500 From: "T Biehn" <tbiehn@...il.com> To: "Kristian Erik Hermansen" <kristian.hermansen@...il.com> Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: "Andrew A" -> Benjamin Trott, Six Apart/Live Journal hacker, and belligerent anti-gay remarks? Kristian Erik Hermansen, Oh man, get sued for libel much? Warm regards, Travis On Feb 12, 2008 3:13 AM, Kristian Erik Hermansen <kristian.hermansen@...il.com> wrote: > After the recent death of Justin Polazzo -- a dude who I only > corresponded with over the net -- I noticed another post from "Andrew > A", which touted some horrible remarks. I don't know who "Andrew A" > is, but he and I have had a running conversation publicly and > privately. He has proven to be quite immature. I can offer some > knowledge that he has provided to me privately to point at who it > might be, but I make no guarantee to who the individual is. It is > merely from his mouth. He wanted to meet me at the art gatherings in > San Francisco's 20GOTO10, and give me a piece of his mind. He called > me a "pussy faggot" when I did not attend Christopher Abad's showing > of ASCII art on those dates. > > Following is some insight that may help some people on this list track > down who this "Andrew A" is. It is a very sad day when we lose > someone in real life and we must all rethink what is happening in our > security community when people take pride in laughing at such loss of > life. The Internet may just be the flicking of electrons passing > around in an invisible flux, but the people at the edge of our > networks are real. We must treat them with the same respect we would > treat others with in person. We must forgive. We must forget. We > must do our best to unite our communities rather than divide them. We > have all made our own mistakes in the past, so let's continue our > journey with a new goal -- that of trying to be good to one another in > real life and online, despite its virtualness. We must do that. I > have hope that we can accomplish decency online... > > http://www.kristian-hermansen.com/wordpress/2008/02/11/benjamin-trott-and-belligerent-anti-gay-remarks/ > > Benjamin Trott is an American entrepreneur living in California. He is > known for co-founding Six Apart (6 Apart, or 6A), which later > purchased Live Journal. However, online, it appears that he may be > acting under a pseudonym as "Andrew A" (gluttony@...il.com, gluttony). > > It all started back in December in San Francisco. An observation of > mine regarding fetching favicon images in certain contexts, which many > people I have spoken to consider a bug in some web browsers, turned > into a flame-war on the full disclosure list and many accusations were > flying. However, the discussion continued off-list privately where > "Andrew A" continued with belligerent and even anti-gay remarks. It is > just disgusting that someone of this stature would expend so much > energy and hatred. I just want it to stop, but this person, whom I > believe is Benjamin Trott, continues to harass me and it is > unwarranted. Please stop and grow up "Andrew A" (gluttony@...il.com). > > The purported "Andrew A" claims to live at this residence, perhaps > with his wife Mena G. Trott: > 4338 26th street, San Francisco, CA > > His phone number appears to be (415) 821-2073. "Andrew A" should just > quit this silliness and apologize. I felt the need to post this > information in the case that others have been harassed by this > individual. > > """ > Delivered-To: kristian.hermansen@...il.com > Received: by 10.141.98.17 with SMTP id a17cs38059rvm; > Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:14:31 -0800 (PST) > Received: by 10.150.155.1 with SMTP id c1mr1361744ybe.85.1197670470807; > Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:14:30 -0800 (PST) > Received: by 10.151.12.9 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:14:30 -0800 (PST) > Message-ID: <1865973b0712141414w35592f41xb37d6b9e6c441374@...l.gmail.com> > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:14:30 -0800 > From: "Andrew A" > To: "Kristian Erik Hermansen" > Subject: Re: Mr. Andrew A"nonymous" > In-Reply-To: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="―-=_Part_751_2843694.1197670470804″ > References: > <1865973b0712141029t412faf97nde06c0dd88b6afc@...l.gmail.com> > > ――=_Part_751_2843694.1197670470804 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > I live out of Orange County but I visit the bay for business and pleasure. > No way am I gonna roll to Baysec or Berksec though. Do I look like a > clueless wannabe faggot like you? > > I may be at the 20goto10 ansi show, but I'll definitely be at the buttes > 20goto10 show. See you there. I'll introduce myself. > """ > > """ > Delivered-To: kristian.hermansen@...il.com > Received: by 10.100.226.20 with SMTP id y20cs604319ang; > Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:00:03 -0800 (PST) > Received: by 10.78.193.5 with SMTP id q5mr27381979huf.4.1202670001651; > Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:00:01 -0800 (PST) > Received: by 10.78.29.5 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:00:01 -0800 (PST) > Message-ID: <1865973b0802101100j19616f24x685a5162550719e3@...l.gmail.com> > Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:00:01 -0800 > From: "Andrew A" > To: "Kristian Erik Hermansen" > Subject: Re: Mr. Andrew A"nonymous" > In-Reply-To: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="―-=_Part_26650_5443580.1202670001597″ > References: > <1865973b0712141029t412faf97nde06c0dd88b6afc@...l.gmail.com> > > <1865973b0712141414w35592f41xb37d6b9e6c441374@...l.gmail.com> > > ――=_Part_26650_5443580.1202670001597 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > I didnt see you at either 20goto10 show. pussy faggot. > > 4338 26th street, san francisco > > ask for ben. > > fuck you. > """ > > """ > Delivered-To: kristian.hermansen@...il.com > Received: by 10.141.156.14 with SMTP id i14cs18074rvo; > Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:29:13 -0800 (PST) > Received: by 10.78.100.1 with SMTP id x1mr27801382hub.45.1202689752363; > Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:29:12 -0800 (PST) > Received: by 10.78.29.5 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:29:12 -0800 (PST) > Message-ID: <1865973b0802101629r41563830g4e6d8081a47ea8b7@...l.gmail.com> > Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:29:12 -0800 > From: "Andrew A" > To: "Kristian Erik Hermansen" > Subject: Re: Mr. Andrew A"nonymous" > In-Reply-To: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="―-=_Part_27245_9193762.1202689752365″ > References: > <1865973b0712141029t412faf97nde06c0dd88b6afc@...l.gmail.com> > > <1865973b0712141414w35592f41xb37d6b9e6c441374@...l.gmail.com> > > <1865973b0802101100j19616f24x685a5162550719e3@...l.gmail.com> > > ――=_Part_27245_9193762.1202689752365 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > That's my residence. I'm Ben. :D > > On Feb 10, 2008 2:32 PM, Kristian Erik Hermansen < > kristian.hermansen@...il.com> wrote: > > > On Feb 10, 2008 11:00 AM, Andrew A wrote: > > > I didnt see you at either 20goto10 show. pussy faggot. > > > > Chill out buddy. Way to hold a grudge. I was at Baysec, along with > > Nate Lawson some Cloudmark guys and others. Where were you? :-) > > > > > 4338 26th street, san francisco > > > > And is this your residence or work? > > > > > ask for ben. > > > > Ben who? > > > > > fuck you. > > > > Right…you are so eloquent… > > �C > > Kristian Erik Hermansen > > "Know something about everything and everything about something." > """ > -- > Kristian Erik Hermansen > "Know something about everything and everything about something." > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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