Message-Id: <20080217221128.E98D111803C@mailserver5.hushmail.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:11:28 -0800
From: <beenthere@...h.com>
To: <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Cc: 
Subject: Re: SCADA Security Corruption

On Feb 17, 2008 10:28 AM, Ghost Rider <gh0str1d3r84@...il.com>
wrote:

"After some offline discussion and a bit more research I agree that
the credibility doesn't seem very reliable.  It looks like it was 
on a
(non-google) server archive where somebody was manually saving chat
archives.  Who knows... they could have been forged or manipulated.
The only way to know for sure would be to see the actual google
server archive."

So what's the point, Ghostrider, other than character assassination
(or is that asinine-sasion)?

Simply by highlighting what is at most dubious information, you
present it as fact and leave the rest to now-public conjecture.

What is your relation to the guy?  Indeed, when were you
fired...and for what?

Even if your grudge-specific accusation had a smidgen of truth,
exactly how many people sharing that name are in the US..or the
world for that matter?  If you goto:
 http://www.census.gov/genealogy/www/namesearch.html  one can get a 
pretty good idea how common the name is, and work the
statistics yourself...  Better yet, if I goto a search engine
starting with Za...I find 5 different people with the same name,
residing anywhere from beautiful Bakersfield, Ca to McCalla, 
Alabama (don't forget your Banjo, pig, and slobbering 'Tard, 'ya 
hear?).

The odds seem to be...lacking, Ghostrider.

What a nasty, spiteful and cheap way to air your grievance against
someone -- one can only hope the groundwork you're laying doesn't
come back to bite you, hard, when the Karma PoPo demand unfettered
access inside 'yer head.

Let's be honest here, perhaps a rare, seminal event for 'ya --
you're not performing research, you're trying to throw this guy
under a bus, an inquisition by any other name -- and I'm calling
you out.

Ghostrider, the question to everyone's answer is usually found from
within, and I hope the looking glass doesn't hurt too much when
it's pointed your way some day.

-BeenThere

p.s. Have you seen what the average SCADA admin looks like?  One 
guy in these parts looks like he could have walked off the AC/DC 
Tour Bus...and I must say, I can tell when he comes on shift 'cause 
the lights burn just a little brighter.

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On Feb 17, 2008 10:28 AM, Ghost Rider <gh0str1d3r84@...il.com>
wrote:
I was trying to do a little research on SCADA security and I noticed
this one guy's name (Jonathan Pollet) kept coming up.  It seems he
is
one of the leading experts and it also looks like he is a Vice
President at Industrial Defender (www.industrialdefender.com).  It
looks like they are a leading SCADA security company.  Well through
my
Google searching I also came across an interesting archived Google
Talk chat with his name in it.  I guess not only is this guy a
leader
in SCADA Security it seems he is into drug trafficking also (pasted
below).  These are the people protecting critical networks like
power
grids and nuclear plants!?!?!?!


Chat with Jonathan Pollet show details 7/29/07

Jonathan Pollet to me


(SNIP…)


11:51 PM Jonathan: nice

 speaking of drugs...ha ha

 i felt weird asking you about that today

me: yeah we'll have to hook up 'morrow

 i don't care

Jonathan: but I really didn't know where to turn

 so thanks

11:52 PM me: yeah i have shady friends

 lol

Jonathan: I've got to figure out the best way to transport it
through
Chicago and onto Vegas

me: oh shit you have a destination before vegas?

 well don't put it in your checked bags

11:53 PM Jonathan: yeah that's what i heard too

me: you'll have about an 80 to 90% chance of getting popped

Jonathan: i was thinking of splitting all the flaps up

me: best way is to tape it to your leg

Jonathan: into different places in my laptop bad

 bag

 ah

 cool

 didn't think about that

me: don't put it in ANY bag

 if you get popped for a random search they can find it

11:54 PM Jonathan: can you have Ross break it up into small bagges

me: yeah

Jonathan: or paper flaps

 just not foil

me: it'll be tiny tiny ziplocks

 you can tape those to your leg

Jonathan: sweet

11:55 PM i can handle that

me: chances of you getting strip searched is probably zero

Jonathan: yeah, I've flown thousands of times

me: chances of you walking past a drug dog is zero

Jonathan: never strip searched at all

me: yeah you'll be 100% safe taping it to you

Jonathan: i've ran into a god before....but only going in and out
of canada

 dog

11:56 PM me: i've never found god in an airport

 :P

Jonathan: haha


(..SNIP)


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