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Message-Id: <B48C06E8-E9FA-46B8-9581-E44EFD0FC437@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:57:03 -0600
From: Tremaine Lea <tremaine@...il.com>
To: Dmitry <security.research.labs@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Free Tibet..

True that.  I'll leave it alone now.

---
Tremaine Lea
Network Security Consultant
Intrepid ACL
"Paranoia for hire"


On 25-Mar-08, at 7:13 AM, Dmitry wrote:
> This list is not about political problems. Go find yourself a free  
> tibet mailing list.
>
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Tremaine Lea <tremaine@...il.com>  
> wrote:
> Nah, there are a number of blogs and non-Western sources that are
> providing much the same information.  Check out the English Al-Jazeera
> site for examples.  Hardly a news source that is 'friendly' to Western
> interests, and definitely not a puppet like Fox or similar.  There are
> also a number of video's up on Youtube.
>
>
> --
> Tremaine Lea
> Network Security Consultant
> Intrepid ACL
> "Paranoia for hire"
>
>
> On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 08:57 -0400, Kern wrote:
> > >Jerome, I find it odd that you would tell someone to ignore a media
> > >source and then not provide an alternative.
> >
> > I think the "alternative" sources of "media" are in Chinese.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Tremaine Lea <tremaine@...il.com>  
> wrote:
> > > Jerome, I find it odd that you would tell someone to ignore a  
> media
> > >  source and then not provide an alternative.
> > >
> > >  While there are plenty of reasons, and good reasons, to be  
> suspicious of
> > >  western media, the facts speak for themselves.
> > >
> > >  - There was violence in Tibet and a lot of protesters died.
> > >
> > >  -  The Chinese government said they did send in security forces  
> but they
> > >  didn't kill anyone and their forces weren't even armed.
> > >
> > >  -  Independent sources in Tibet, which are remarkably hard to  
> find right
> > >  now, managed to get information out.
> > >
> > >  -  The Chinese government fesses up days letter and says yes  
> they killed
> > >  people, and yes their security forces were armed.
> > >
> > >  Just what is it you were trying to refute with this post to the  
> list?
> > >
> > >  --
> > >  Tremaine Lea
> > >  Network Security Consultant
> > >  Intrepid ACL
> > >  "Paranoia for hire"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 13:31 +0800, Jerome Jar wrote:
> > >  > Please, I humbly think that you know possibly nothing about  
> Tibet, the
> > >  > province of China.
> > >  >
> > >  > A lot of Chinese people, who used to take western medias as the
> > >  > representation of good will and perhaps democracy, do feel  
> sick of the
> > >  > misleading news article pieces produced by such medias on  
> this very
> > >  > topic of Tibet. If all of your knowledge about the Tibet  
> event comes
> > >  > from such sources, just ignore them.
> > >  >
> > >  > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Gerald Maggro <gmaggro@...ers.com 
> > wrote:
> > >  > > ..with purchase of one country of equal or greater value?
> > >  > >
> > >  > >  Seriously though, those cocksuckers in the Chinese gov't  
> are at it
> > >  > >  again... wait, they never stopped. Murderous freedom  
> hating ways. Just
> > >  > >  not right.
> > >  > >
> > >  > >  How about a bigger target than Scientology this time?
> > >  > >
> > >  > >  China's got the Olympics coming up, that makes them more  
> sensitive than
> > >  > >  usual.
> > >  > >
> > >  > >  The Dalai Lama can be as peaceful as he wants... more  
> action is needed.
> > >  > >  Alot more. Anyone want to pick a fight with the Chinese?
> > >
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