full-disclosure - Re: sans handler gives out n3td3v e-mail to public

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Message-ID: <47F0EAAA.5080505@brvenik.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:44:10 -0400
From: Jason <security@...enik.com>
To: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
Cc: n3td3v <n3td3v@...glegroups.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: sans handler gives out n3td3v e-mail to public

n3td3v wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 10:44 AM,  <taneja.security@...il.com> wrote:
>> I think this the most worst and alarming situation ..where SANS like
>> organization is doing the way.......... from onwards no body will report
>> info to SANS........... E+1 t+1 b+1 j+1 it OFF!!!
> 
> SANS hasn't admitted a breach occured yet and they've had 7 days to
> come up with the wording.
> 
> I haven't seen Joel Esler, the guy who breached my privacy back on
> duty yet, but i've seen him and Johannes Ullrich talking on the
> internet storm center mentioning podcasts
> http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=4202
> 
> Why are they announcing podcasts when both Joel Esler and Johannes
> Ullrich have a privacy breach still to publically acknowledge and
> apologize for?
> 
> Maybe they thought Full-Disclosure mailing list members wouldn't
> notice if they pretend the incident didn't take place and tried to
> sweep it under the carpet?
> 
> Johannes Ullrich, you told me you were investigating Joel Esler
> internally, so please tell me the findings, so I can paste them onto
> Full-Disclosure.
> 


I fail to see why I should care. I might care if they provided name, 
address, phone, parents but that would only be because I could then send 
you annoying things in postal mail every time I get another crap email 
from you.

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