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Message-ID: <47F370E6.50301@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 07:41:26 -0400
From: Jeff Stebelton <jeff.stebelton@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: sans handler gives out n3td3v e-mail to public

Actually, they are getting on with their business, keeping thousands of 
network security professionals informed and updated. What they aren't 
doing is engaging in childish postings to listservs, silly braggadocio, 
and generally making a fool of themselves.  When you are  good at what  
you do, your work speaks for you, and you don't need to  fill up 
people's inboxes with rants and rambling calls for action from the White 
House (that one split my side laughing). "In the Presidents Early Bird 
briefings today is yet another serious cyberwarfare warning from that 
accomplished and respected security researcher, n3td3v. Mark this Top 
Priority and make sure he sees it first thing!". This is what you put up 
with to have unmoderated lists.

n3td3v wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:00 AM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
>   
>> On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:08:43 -0000, n3td3v said:
>>
>>  > Why are they announcing podcasts when both Joel Esler and Johannes
>>  > Ullrich have a privacy breach still to publically acknowledge and
>>  > apologize for?
>>
>>  Umm.. maybe because, despite what you may think, your little pissing contest
>>  with Joel and Johannes doesn't qualify as a "oh my ghod, let's drop *everything*
>>  and shut down the entire workflow and not do a single damned thing until this
>>  issue is resolved".
>>     
>
> They aren't busy or getting on with business, they have obviously
> snubbed the n3td3v agenda.
>
> Joel Esler is back on duty,
> http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=4225 he obviously hasn't been
> sacked and he is talking about April Fools Day.
>
> I'm mighty angry,
>
> n3td3v
>
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