full-disclosure - Re: DEF CON 16 Retro Announcement! Back to Bang!

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Message-ID: <31186.1208221468@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:04:28 -0400
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
Cc: n3td3v <n3td3v@...glegroups.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk,
	The Dark Tangent <dtangent@...con.org>
Subject: Re: DEF CON 16 Retro Announcement! Back to Bang!

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:57:18 BST, you said:
> On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 4:23 AM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
> > On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:06:28 BST, n3td3v said:
> >
> >  > Any criminal hackers who go are just stupid and don't realise what
> >  > they are actually attending.
> >  >
> >  > The U.S Security Services will have hidden cameras and befrienders in
> >  > place to grab as much information out of people as possible.
> >  >
> >  > These conferences have just turned into a 'human honeypot' for the
> >  > intelligence services.

> So, because a real world terrorist clone of Def Con wouldn't work, the
> same goes for Def Con "human honeypot"ing of ---cyber terrorists, who
> are today the direct threat to corporations and government, not the
> once before believed bedroom hacker of which Def Con originally was
> formed from.

Dood, you need to make up your mind - is infiltration of cons by govt
security the Next Big Thing, or already played out?  You can't have it
both ways, choose one and stick with it.

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