Message-Id: <FB3FAC20-964E-4074-AD50-0D6431711DF9@seiden.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:37:24 +0200
From: mark seiden-via mac <mis@...den.com>
To: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
Cc: n3td3v <n3td3v@...glegroups.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Fwd: n3td3v has a fan

in my opinion a few of the "facts" in this posting may actually be  
true (the ones with a possible harmless interpretation), but most are  
colored
by a deeply distorted view of reality.  also,  a seeming inability to  
closely read, critically think, or analyze risk rationally.
participating in politics requires all of these, as well as an ability  
to listen to other points of view.

(since i seem to be among the dramatis personae in his Davidsbund), i  
can say n3td3v seldom ceases to disappoint me, and make
me regret having had some impulse to be helpful that resulted in past  
interchanges with him.

btw, n3td3v, I know Gadi Evron, and you're no Gadi Evron.  (this is  
probably a good thing, as there probably ain't room enough
in the world for two of them...)

sadly,

the cross-eyed bear.






On Apr 14, 2008, at 11:05 PM, n3td3v wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Kurt Dillard <kurtdillard@....com>  
> wrote:
>> - Bad guys would never think to, you know, go to the campus and  
>> look around?
>
> You forget, the intelligence services are indepth with Yahoo already,
> and some of their senior software engineers are in the service.
>
> I have spoke to these people in person, I know what's going on as far
> as intelligence is concerned, I have protested for years against one
> of them who used intelligence I gave him, against me, against the
> people my intelligence was from and bettered his career.
>
> Infact, the guy used my advise so much, he setup his own intelligence
> conference in Yahoo and stood up infront of everyone and gave a talk
> on the intelligence I had given him over the years about Yahoo hacker
> enemies, thats not all, after the conference to which he gave a speech
> to, he was offered a job as Yahoo messenger security engineer, where
> the Yahoo employee, who I believe to work for french intelligence was
> able to get into a key Yahoo communication job with Yahoo Inc, to
> plant code into Yahoo Messenger service.
>
> The employee, before getting into Yahoo worked for the french military
> as an 18 year old, then suspiciously walked away from that, moved to
> the United States as Yahoo was formed into a corporation from a simple
> page on the internet as a directory.
>
> This is not all, the employee, who I know about, didn't apply for this
> job into Yahoo as , as the time a Yahoo Chat engineer, but was fast
> tracked into Yahoo by other adversaries, then after he was in Yahoo,
> (the french guy), the person who fast tracked him into Yahoo left
> Yahoo. This was way back when Yahoo was beginning to look like a major
> corporation in the internet space.
>
> For years i've given the names of these employees and other
> information to Yahoo, but they fail to act upon the information as of
> lack of formal evidence, but I have had on hands with the french
> employee, who is a senior software developer, who used my
> intelligence, not to protect Yahoo, but to further his career.
>
> Further from that, this person was fast tracked into Yahoo through
> suspicious reasoning, not only that, he asked me not to mention how he
> got fast tracked, and that the majority of his work force didn't know
> how he got into Yahoo.
>
> He told me that there was a split in Yahoo between the good guys and
> the bad, he said the good guys were good, but the bad guys knew who
> the bad guys were and had ringed together within Yahoo security team
> and the rest of its work force to gathering intelligence on Yahoo
> operations.
>
> The person in question, back in the day, when I probed him, gave me
> access to his cube via webcam, and other data. There was also phone
> call exchange between me and the employee, via corporate phone bill,
> funded by Yahoo to my cell phone.
>
> He manipulated me and the intellgience I gave him to get ahead within
> the corporation. he openly hacked into things during work hours which
> were outwidth of Yahoo, he hacked into Yahoo-assualt.org which was a
> major underground website for "Yahoo progz" and left rude comments
> under each php-nuke content management system notice ont he frontpage
> VIA comment source, so the defacement of the site over a period wasn't
> known by the immediate owners, as the defacement was source code
> based, only to prove to me he had root to the site that Yahoo security
> were investigating.
>
> He said he would stay at Yahoo even after hours, because it was far
> easier to do malice activity within the boundries of Yahoo than to go
> home to his 100k+ modem.
>
> His wife, he said was aware of his activities but fully supported him
> throughout, infact, he discovered his wife from the Yahoo Chat hacker
> scene from which he was originally head hunted from.
>
> The employee is still working in Yahoo as a senior software engineer,
> who has access and connections with Yahoo security team and is on the
> most part trusted by them as a credible part of the overall workforce
> at Yahoo, although n3td3v operations, back in the day know more is
> going on than what is normally expected.
>
> Back in the day when I had relations with him I was a humble script
> kid who didn't realise the full extent of what was going on, a little
> like when you're a kid you might not realise your uncle is touching
> you up because you don't realise what's going on because you're naive,
> but in the future, after 2004/5 when I left the Yahoo undergorund
> intelligence gathering scene on script kids, I realised the full
> extent of the Yahoo employee, how he got into Yahoo and other details
> that he had confined in with me, were to say the least---questionable.
>
> n3td3v has no intelligence anymore on the employee, but Yahoo are
> aware of the person, who is now a senior software engineer for Yahoo,
> who is in an architectural role for "secret" Yahoo projects which are
> not announced to the public, but still--- a key job to be in for
> intelligence gathering, which would be useful for an opposition
> corporation such as Google, Microsoft, or a govenment's intelligence
> operation who is trying to keep up to speed with current developments.
>
> As a senior software developer, you can slip code into software, this
> is the most damaging threat for Yahoo, than simple staff and
> operational reconnaissance inside Yahoo.
>
> To finished off and reference back to your orginal comment that Yahoo
> wouldn't allow strangers to walk about Yahoo, this might be the case,
> but the most sophisticated spies at Yahoo joined up, and in this case
> were fast tracked into Yahoo at the end of the 1990s when it was
> evident to the intelligence services Yahoo was becoming a major
> player.
>
> This is only the french intelligence service, so think what creatures
> the CIA and MI6 currently have inside Yahoo, a corporation about to be
> taken over by Microsoft corporation---or others.
>
> The person is now in his 30s, when I knew him he was 24/25.. I no
> longer monitor what's going on at the Yahoo underworld, but I was a
> part of it at the time when Yahoo corporation was a successful
> corporation on the internet.
>
> I could go further indepth but I don't think it would be appropriate
> without having to name names in public.
>
> n3td3v
>
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