full-disclosure - Re: defining 0day

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Message-ID: <4ef5fec60804191933x4c149abex40da15fd4fd66e3b@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:33:34 -0700
From: coderman <coderman@...il.com>
To: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
Cc: n3td3v <n3td3v@...glegroups.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk,
	Gadi Evron <ge@...uxbox.org>
Subject: Re: defining 0day

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 5:27 PM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
> ...
>  But from the computers point of view it doesn't care, if the
>  vulnerability is not patched by the official vendor then its still a
>  0-day.
> ...
>  Its purely a mechanical term for the computer, not anything to do with
>  what humans think.
>  ..
>  A computer doesn't count how many days ago, it counts in 0 and 1's, so
>  it doesn't count the days inbetween, to the computer there is only
>  0-day then patched is 1, thats what the reference is all about.

if we determine 0day by "patched" or "not patched" you've applied a
useless metric which means nothing.

when Oracle doesn't deliver a patch for a known vuln for 1.5 YEARS and
you get exploited via this vector, that is a 0day attack?
(a vector easily mitigated by disabling a known, often unnecessary
component added for marketing value to product..)

please, use your crack addled mind (what is left of it) and think
through the logical conclusion of your assertion.

0day is a perspective.

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