Message-ID: <f67054650804291953u52a60125r54791919aa421b7d@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:53:17 +1000
From: Pat <hermens.p@...il.com>
To: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
Cc: n3td3v <n3td3v@...glegroups.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Did n3td3v infulence Google Security Team?

Not dissing you, but just wanting to thank you for the laugh:
<snip />*and I have a news group of 4308+ who do take me seriously.*<snip />

Why be random when you can be exact huh?
Seriously, the 63213249876837+ atoms that make up my being as a whole, thank
you.

2008/4/30 n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>:

> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:50 AM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:08:31 BST, n3td3v said:
> >  > Google issues warning about phishing e-mails
> >  > http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9931539-7.html
> >
> >  And the top comment as I write this is:
> >
> >
> http://www.news.com/5208-10784_3-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=37227&messageID=402998&start=-1
> >
> >  "'Phishing' is over 3 years old. Why bother with this post now, in
> 2008?"
> >
> >  And I have to agree here - if Google finally got on board after all
> this
> >  time, which is more likely:
> >
> >  1) That somebody high up from the FBI or DHS or other TLA leaned on
> them to
> >  get with the program already...
> >  or
> >  2) That they got (or were about to get) a whole pile of bad press in
> >  ComputerWorld or InformationWeek or Bruce Schneier's blog or other
> information
> >  source often read by other movers-and-shakers...
> >  or
> >  3) That they listened to some unemployed blogger with no public record
> of being
> >  taken seriously from the other side of the big puddle.
>
> Never taken seriously by outspoken arse holes on FD isn't the same as
> being taken seriously by people who matter.
>
> Outspoken arse holes on FD aren't the spokes people for the entire
> list, they don't decide what everyones opinion is of everything and
> everyone.
>
> Disrespecting me all the time when i'm trying hard to make a
> difference isn't giving any positive vibes off of you, just a lot of
> negitive grudge vibes that the folks who matter, the ones who aren't
> outspoken and rude on FD don't respect from you.
>
> Valdis, its about time you gave up the grudge fight, and gave into the
> fact n3td3v is big and influential in the security community, I talk
> to a lot of important people you've never seen or heard of, and I have
> a news group of 4308+ who do take me seriously.
>
> Its only *you* who is trying to make it look as if i'm not taken
> seriously by anyone, its you who is trying to say my news group is
> lame, and its you who said Web Application Security Awareness Day is
> lame.
>
> Give up the grudge match Valdis, the people who matter don't care
> about your pissing contest you've been having with me on FD, who only
> fake handles and nobody aliases have backed you up.
>
> You're trying to get everyone to have a negitive view of me, but the
> folks who matter, which isn't you, do listen to me and take me
> seriously.
>
> They see through what you're trying to do Valdis, you're the only one
> with no serious infulence.
>
> I have a bigger standing in the security community than you Valdis,
> and quite frankly it makes you jealous, and the people who matter
> you've never seen or heard of before who I have spoke to about you,
> they think the same thing that its Jealousy that drives the people who
> troll my every post, and you know if you keep responding to me
> negitively then i'm finally going to lose my temper and prove your
> opinion about me.
>
> Accept Valdis, the people who matter see through you and the other
> random alias people on FD, who you've decided to join up with in
> dissing me none stop, and know that its because I do have a big impact
> and infulence that it drives you nuts, because you want so much to
> have the same standing in the security community as I have built up.
>
> And the important people who matter who take me seriously told me to
> say this to you.
>
> All the best,
>
> n3td3v
>
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