full-disclosure - Re: the agenda

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Message-ID: <32168.1210966907@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 15:41:47 -0400
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To: Fredrick Diggle <fdiggle@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: the agenda

On Sat, 17 May 2008 04:54:24 +1000, Fredrick Diggle said:
> yes fredrick is very jealous :> your ability to accidentally crash
> software is astounding, almost as astounding as your inability to
> determine the actual problem beyond the debug output.

You've obviously not been paying attention - a large fraction of the time,
when I report the bug, I also have tracked down the exact code change that
caused the failure.  And at that point, you really *do* have to go back to
the person who wrote the code change and ask "What did you *expect* this code
to do?".

Also, if you paid attention, you'd realize that another large fraction
of the time, it's *not* worth the effort of tracking down the actual code
change, because simply posting the traceback allows somebody to look at it
and realize it's a brown-bag bug and create a patch faster than I can
track down the commit.

> Actually in all seriousness I am jealous of you but it's your
> mustache. Is it real or did you glue a squirrel to your face?

Fear not, in a few years you'll probably have enough hormones in your
system to grow one yourself...

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