full-disclosure - Re: Geeks

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Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 21:36:44 -0500
From: "John C. A. Bambenek, GCIH, CISSP" <bambenek.infosec@...il.com>
To: "Daniel Marsh" <jahilliya@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Geeks

For the record, I got it because I got tired of HR guys asking me about
security certifications just before deciding not to give me an interview.
It's like a college degree... it's a piece of paper that is your entrance
ticket.

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Daniel Marsh <jahilliya@...il.com> wrote:

>
>
>  On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Paul Schmehl <pauls@...allas.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> --On May 19, 2008 3:50:37 PM -0400 Elazar Broad <elazar@...hmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Yea, and there are plenty that can't even set up their own home
>> > network...
>> >
>>
>> If that's true, I'm sure you can name a few.
>>
>> Or are you all hot air like two thirds of the bozos that constantly post
>> to this list?
>>
>> Paul Schmehl (pauls@...allas.edu)
>> Senior Information Security Analyst
>>
>
> As Jeff Wilder said before, it's a management certification.
> As someone else has said, CISSP provides a baseline for others to make
> assessment of your knowledge.
>
> Two people, both achieved CISSP certification, one took 15 years of work in
> the industry, and failed the exam once. The other graduated from uni and
> passed the exam on the first try.
>
> Their knowledge is not the same, the guy that graduated from university and
> passed simply has a photographic memory.
>
> It's to provide a baseline, it's like saying that everyone that graduates
> from high school is of the same intelligence as everyone else who graduated
> that year... it's a baseline.
>
> Warning, my fud below...
> A director at another company I was talking with told me a story how he and
> a friend had to sit an exam the next day, the Director had studied all the
> material thoroughly, the other guy didn't, and didn't even study one of the
> core subjects of the exam criteria.
> The other guy studied the material the night before (the material he didn't
> study earlier) for two hours and passed. The Director failed by 7 points.
>
> The Director asked his friend how he passed when he didn't study the
> material and just read it the night before... his friends reply "I have a
> photographic memory, in 3 months I won't remember a thing".
>
>
>
>
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