Message-ID: <2df3b0cb0805210517h78f515e7ue04e166e349ade22@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 09:17:21 -0300
From: M.B.Jr. <marcio.barbado@...il.com>
To: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [NANOG] IOS rootkits

Dear n3td3v, the person =)
I really appreciate your left wing point of view but you need to
understand one thing:

FD's a free list and all but it's not a blog.

Nothing personal,


On 5/17/08, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 7:38 PM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
>  > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>  > From: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
>  > Date: Sat, May 17, 2008 at 12:08 PM
>  > Subject: Re: [NANOG] IOS rootkits
>  > To: nanog@...it.edu
>  >
>  >
>  > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
>  > <ops.lists@...il.com> wrote:
>  >> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft
>  >> <mmc@...ernode.com.au> wrote:
>  >>> If the way of running this isn't out in the wild and it's actually
>  >>> dangerous then a pox on anyone who releases it, especially to gain
>  >>> publicity at the expensive of network operators sleep and well being.
>  >>> May you never find a reliable route ever again.
>  >>
>  >> This needs fixing. It doesnt need publicity at security conferences
>  >> till after cisco gets presented this stuff first and asked to release
>  >> an emergency patch.
>  >
>  > Agreed,
>  >
>  > You've got to remember though that a security conference is a
>  > commercial venture, it makes business sense for this to be publically
>  > announced at this security conference.
>  >
>  > I think security conferences have become something that sucks as its
>  > all become money making oriented and the people who run these things
>  > don't really have security in mind, just the £ signs reflecting on
>  > their eye balls.
>  >
>  >> --srs
>  >> --
>  >> Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.lists@...il.com)
>  >>
>  >
>  > All the best,
>  >
>  > n3td3v
>  >
>
>
> Full-Disclosure,
>
>  I fully believe British Intelligence are the best in the world and
>  that they will pull the plug on this presentation without hesitation
>  before it gets to go ahead.
>
>  I don't see anyone disagreeing how wrong it is for this presentation
>  to go ahead as a business decision.
>
>  I know the national security boys at MI5 are listening, so I suggest
>  this gets priority and this presentation doesn't go ahead.
>
>  What I want is a high profile pulling the plug of this presentation to
>  act as a deterrent to any other security conferences across the world
>  who think they are going to capitalise through high risk
>  vulnerabilities as this one is.
>
>  I want UK government officials to walk on stage as this presnetation
>  is about to start, infront of the media, infront of everybody,
>  including the money makers who thought they were going to use this
>  presentation as a way to sell tickets and make money and put UK
>  national security at risk.
>
>  I don't want a behind the scenes pulling the plug of this
>  presentation, I want it to be high profile, infront of the worlds
>  media to show that in Britian we don't fuck about with crappy security
>  conferences trying to become rich by getting high risk talkers to come
>  to their security conference to guarantee a sell out and thousands of
>  pounds made, at a cost to UK national security.
>
>  I will be talking with my private contacts to try and get this to
>  happen, as many of you know I already had a grudge with EUSecWest
>  spamming the mailing lists, instead of buying advertisement banners on
>  websites, so the announcement of a IOS rootkit presentation is the
>  final insult to injury, and the UK national security boys are likely
>  to pull the plug on this without hesitation to make an example to
>  these security conference owners to say that national security becomes
>  before profit and how dare you try to profit and not giving a shit
>  about the consequences of this presentation.
>
>  Trust me and mark my words EUSecWest, you upset a lot of people
>  spamming the mailing lists, this is just the worst possible thing you
>  could have done to keep people on side, you've lost any respect I may
>  have had for your conference and I guarantee UK government officials
>  will pull the plug on your business venture of a security conference.
>
>  Blackhat conference with Michael Lynn was under the control of the
>  American authorities and they were light weight in response to what
>  was going on, trust me, the British authorities will be coming down a
>  lot tougher and won't be thinking twice about pulling this
>  presentation, but will do it on a grand scale infront of the media, to
>  send a clear signal that these security conferences and their money
>  making agenda isn't going to get in the way of our national security.
>
>  This is a subject I feel strongly and passionate about because if this
>  presentation went ahead it would fuck up a lot of ISPs and would put
>  national security at risk.
>
>  If the British authorites don't pull the plug on this presentation you
>  will have let your country down and let your British taxpayers down
>  who fund MI5 in the first place.
>
>  And its not just me saying this, ISPs are calling for this
>  presentation to be pulled as well.
>
>
>  All the best,
>
>  n3td3v
>
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Marcio Barbado, Jr.

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