full-disclosure - Re: To clear the air and conspiracy about n3td3v

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Message-ID: <6158bb410806050724m7736c893i340274c5f39c619@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 10:24:16 -0400
From: Ureleet <ureleet@...il.com>
To: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: To clear the air and conspiracy about n3td3v

best email youve ever written.  clearly you dont know much.  but thank
you for admitting it.  next time, when you say that you are part of
mi6, we will know not to believe you.  everyone print out this email
and tack it in your cube, read it everyday so that we all know that
he's just a pundit and actually has no skill.

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:12 AM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Garrett M. Groff <groffg@...design.com> wrote:
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>> That's why there are email filters. Pls start using them if you value your
>> sanity. The kind of "publicity" he/they're getting only encourages the
>> naughty behavior.
>
> I don't understand what you mean by they? Are you talking about my google group?
> The people who post on my google group are people like you, I don't understand.
>
> And what is naughty behaviour? Giving my opinion on security topics
> and criticizing people I don't agree with?
>
> I'm a white hat, I don't agree with naughty behaviour and to date I
> haven't seen any naughty behaviour apart from people who try and paint
> me in bad light.
>
> The google group is the same concept as funsec and I am the same
> concept as Gadi Evron... my google group was around long before funsec
> was around, so I didn't copy him.
>
> I'm not a hacker, I read news articles and give my opinion on them,
> thats all I do, there is no hacker group, I am not a hacker, there is
> nothing going on behind the scenes, because there is no behind the
> scenes.
>
> The google group is a bunch of security professionals like you, who
> like the stories I post to the group and enjoy reading my opinions.
>
> Stop believing the bad press what you read by a bunch of idiots who
> don't know me, Neal Krawetz, Robert Lemos, Alex Eckelberry etc who
> tried to say I was a hacker, who has zero-day etc.
>
> They were just horrible people who don't really know me who have
> helped to ruin my life, my mental health hasn't been the same since I
> read accusations about me that I was a hacker and I'm doing something
> wrong.
>
> SecurityFocus, they never even emailed me for my side of the story, I
> went away to university and then realised an article and PDF file had
> been written about me, I couldn't cope with the pressure, so I had to
> drop out of university because of what was post about me, because I
> couldn't cope with the strain.
>
> Here I am now, picking up the peices and unemployed with no university
> degree, until I can reapply when i'm feeling better after the stress.
>
> I will not stop posting my opinion on security topics, if I did that
> will mean they have won by telling their readers I was a hacker with
> zero-day.
>
> All the best,
>
> n3td3v
>
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