full-disclosure - Re: so this is FD...

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Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:04:45 -0400
From: "Stack Smasher" <stacksmasher@...il.com>
To: "Lucio Crusca" <lucio@...web.org>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: so this is FD...

Lucio,

Full Disclosure is by far the best E-Mail list in the world. It is the last
un-moderated list where people have the freedom to speak about all the
bullshit in the security realm and put people in their place when necessary.
Trolls? Of course we have trolls just like any other place on earth, but
that is what makes this place great! I would say we have the best trolls in
the world. I mean seriously, read some of the past posts. We have some very
funny motherfuckers here and I would not trade them for anything.

--Stack

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 4:46 AM, Lucio Crusca <lucio@...web.org> wrote:

> I've been reading bugtraq in several short periods of my life, from year
> 2000 on. Then I started finding it boring, maybe after it was acquired by
> someone I don't remember right now. I'm not a security expert by any means,
> I just like staying informed about new security issues. I almost understand
> security alerts and a few of the inner workings of an exploit, but only a
> few. Never managed to have a PoC working on my box. That's to introduce
> myself. As you can see I don't hide.
>
> After bugtraq I looked for a place in the old bugtraq spirit, and
> eventually
> I decided FD was that place, so I started reading it. Now, after a few
> months of FD reading, I feel bored again. I've never replied to any of the
> trolls and trolls-feeders on this list, but I've always been hardly hoping
> it was a transient situation, not the main (and sometimes only) topic of
> the list. Hell, if you filter out trolls postings and relative replies, the
> rest is more or less what debian-security has to offer.
>
> Now I have to choose: go on reading this, er... shit? in the hope it will
> get better in the future or leave all of you alone, trolls and others, and
> seek for another place. I know, no one here cares about me or what I'm
> going to do. I'm just posting this to tell you that there are many people
> out there that could be interested in reading this list, maybe not posting
> for lack of skills, but with such a noise you are making them go away, and
> they usually go away without telling you, like I'm doing.
>
> If you want this list to live on, I think (for what's worth) you should
> find
> a solution. Don't know what the solution can actually be. Maybe a wiki in
> the wikipedia style, but with specific rules, community driven, would serve
> better than a unmoderated list?
>
> Lucio.
>
>
>
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