Message-ID: <48780768.1040506@onda.com.br>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:22:48 -0300
From: Giancarlo Razzolini <linux-fan@...a.com.br>
To: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Nominate Dan Kaminsky for Most Overhyped Bug
 Pwnie Award

n3td3v escreveu:
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Sandy Vagina <bigsandyvagina@...il.com> wrote:
>   
>>> Well quite clearly Dino is a faggot then.
>>>       
>> Earlier, you wanted people to submit this to Dino to vote on. Now that
>> it has been pointed out to you that it doesn't qualify, he's not
>> worthwhile. Nice flip-flop.
>>
>>     
>>> I want Dino whoever he is to come on Full-Disclosure and explain
>>> what's awesome about it?
>>>       
>> Why don't you explain what's not? That's right, you can't. You don't
>> know anything about it.
>>     
>
> The only thing awesome about it is its gonna sell more Blackhat
> security conference tickets, thats about it... so yeah people
> connected to Blackhat are gonna think its awesome, its actually a
> peice of shit that nobody cares about.
>
> I'm downplaying this vulnerability on purpose because I know its
> overhyped. It really is a peice of shit designed to make somebody some
> money, i've not got a list of profiteers in front of me but I know
> somebody somewhere has that list of people and could publish it to
> Full-Disclosure mailing list, so us ordinary people can see through
> the hype and bullshit and actually get to the facts of what the
> security industry has turned into, a hyped up money making meca of
> false claims and accusations to spin up free advertising by getting
> the media to talk about X vulnerability, and to buy a ticket for X
> security conference to find out the details.
>
> The security industry is a fuck up, nobody cares about security
> anymore, just a bunch of faggots willing to line their pockets with
> money so they can buy a yacht and go live on a beach somewhere for 12
> months and fuck a bunch of chicks.
>
> No wonder your name is Sandy Vagina, you're probably one of the whores
> getting fucked by one of these researchers on a beach after Blackhat
> and will be invited back to the yacht for an orgy fest of bullshit,
> yes these faggots are laughing all the way to the bank and taking us
> ordinary working class people for a ride by hyping this vulnerability
> up for more than it is, for the simple fact to be able to afford more
> champagne and condoms for when the afterparty happens.
>
> Someones got to stand up against the profiteering on multiple fronts
> on the security scene and n3td3v is the one to do it.
>
> Yes there are going to be lots of fucknuts who don't like n3td3v but
> they are likely on the list of profiteers either directly or
> indirectly.
>
> I would like to see research done into who is actually making money
> and who isn't, it would be more worth while research than some dumb
> fuck claiming to be able to take down the entire internet via DNS
> cache poisoning.
>
> If I sound angry its because I probably am... the amount of shitty
> news reports i've read over the past few days vs the truth is
> astonishing.
>
> I wish more poeple would come out in public and downplay the
> vulnerability for what its worth, and I know after Blackhat security
> conference is over even Dan Kaminsky will downplay it, but while the
> Blackhat security conference hasn't happened yet, you're going to hear
> a lot of wild accusations and media hype to make sure Blackhat is a
> sell out.
>
> After Blackhat security conference is done with, you'll see the truth
> of the profiteers for what they're worth, a bunch of scum bags who
> told us a bunch of lies to get what they wanted, MONEY!
>
> All the best,
>
> n3td3v
>
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>   
I know fd is by essence a non-moderated list. But until when will we
have to listen to netdev shit? And also, till when people will answer
him causing more and more bullshit? Please people, i know netdev is a
pain in the ass. But if we ignore him, he will eventually go away.

My regards,

-- 
Giancarlo Razzolini
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