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Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 10:44:49 +0200
From: the_man@...hmail.com
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Nominate Dan Kaminsky for Most Overhyped
	BugPwnie Award

n3td3v, I've been reading your posts for many years.
Most to all of them are pointless shit.

However, I regret, this one seems to be the very first I fully 
agree with.

All the best


-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-
disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of n3td3v
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:58 AM
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Nominate Dan Kaminsky for Most 
Overhyped BugPwnie Award

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Sandy Vagina 
<bigsandyvagina@...il.com> wrote:
>> Well quite clearly Dino is a faggot then.
>
> Earlier, you wanted people to submit this to Dino to vote on. Now 
that
> it has been pointed out to you that it doesn't qualify, he's not
> worthwhile. Nice flip-flop.
>
>> I want Dino whoever he is to come on Full-Disclosure and explain
>> what's awesome about it?
>
> Why don't you explain what's not? That's right, you can't. You 
don't
> know anything about it.

The only thing awesome about it is its gonna sell more Blackhat
security conference tickets, thats about it... so yeah people
connected to Blackhat are gonna think its awesome, its actually a
peice of shit that nobody cares about.

I'm downplaying this vulnerability on purpose because I know its
overhyped. It really is a peice of shit designed to make somebody 
some
money, i've not got a list of profiteers in front of me but I know
somebody somewhere has that list of people and could publish it to
Full-Disclosure mailing list, so us ordinary people can see through
the hype and bullshit and actually get to the facts of what the
security industry has turned into, a hyped up money making meca of
false claims and accusations to spin up free advertising by getting
the media to talk about X vulnerability, and to buy a ticket for X
security conference to find out the details.

The security industry is a fuck up, nobody cares about security
anymore, just a bunch of faggots willing to line their pockets with
money so they can buy a yacht and go live on a beach somewhere for 
12
months and fuck a bunch of chicks.

No wonder your name is Sandy Vagina, you're probably one of the 
whores
getting fucked by one of these researchers on a beach after 
Blackhat
and will be invited back to the yacht for an orgy fest of bullshit,
yes these faggots are laughing all the way to the bank and taking 
us
ordinary working class people for a ride by hyping this 
vulnerability
up for more than it is, for the simple fact to be able to afford 
more
champagne and condoms for when the afterparty happens.

Someones got to stand up against the profiteering on multiple 
fronts
on the security scene and n3td3v is the one to do it.

Yes there are going to be lots of fucknuts who don't like n3td3v 
but
they are likely on the list of profiteers either directly or
indirectly.

I would like to see research done into who is actually making money
and who isn't, it would be more worth while research than some dumb
fuck claiming to be able to take down the entire internet via DNS
cache poisoning.

If I sound angry its because I probably am... the amount of shitty
news reports i've read over the past few days vs the truth is
astonishing.

I wish more poeple would come out in public and downplay the
vulnerability for what its worth, and I know after Blackhat 
security
conference is over even Dan Kaminsky will downplay it, but while 
the
Blackhat security conference hasn't happened yet, you're going to 
hear
a lot of wild accusations and media hype to make sure Blackhat is a
sell out.

After Blackhat security conference is done with, you'll see the 
truth
of the profiteers for what they're worth, a bunch of scum bags who
told us a bunch of lies to get what they wanted, MONEY!

All the best,

n3td3v

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