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Message-ID: <20080724220628.GA14474@pwns.ms>
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:06:30 +0000
From: list-fulldisclosure@...s.ms
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: DNS spoofing issue. Thoughts on potential
	exploits

> What is always required is a machine where the user has the ability to write
> packets to the network with any IP. This usually means super user access.
> It is difficult in most cases to send udp packets with forged IP since
> routers will not accept them. That is why it is difficult to conduct an
> attack against a random target.

Spoofing one's IP is trivial; there is no - NO - source address checking at the major transit providers; good thing too, it would break lots of things (it's possible - and common - to send packets out to a transit provider with a source IP address that you have *not* announced to them).

Good ISPs tend to check the source address of single-homed customers; plenty of ISPs don't.

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