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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:59:23 -0400
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Internet justice delivered,
	criminals panic and run in despair

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 08:30:07 PDT, alan shimel said:

> These people, who claim to protect Internet infrastructure, who
> claim hacking does not mean breaking into systems. The same people
> who have never experienced breaking into a system with PaX, mprotect
> restrictions, >16 bit ASLR, and RBAC policies configured, the same
> people who have never backdoored a PHP extension on runtime, the
> same people who have never broken into Fortune 100 C-level
> executives
> mailboxes.

So in your world, only murderers can be policemen, and only arsonists can be
firemen, only pitchers can contend for the batting title, and only linebackers
can be quarterbacks?

A quarterback is trying to throw the pass - the linebacker doesn't need
to be able to throw well. He needs to be able to intercept or break up the play.

Similarly, the needed skill sets for white and black hats differ.

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