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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:34:36 +1000
From: silky <michaelslists@...il.com>
To: coderman <coderman@...il.com>
Cc: Full Disclosure <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Linus summarizes state of the "security
	industry" with precision and accuracy.

On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 12:42 PM, coderman <coderman@...il.com> wrote:
> ... hypothesis that "security researchers" are all masturbating monkey
> whores is now proven definitively. [0]

I feel I can speak for the entire monkeynet project
(http://www.themonkeynet.com/) when saying we are offended by this
comparision.


> """
> Too often, so-called "security" is split into two camps: one that
> believes in nondisclosure of problems by hiding knowledge until a bug
> is fixed, and one that "revels in exposing vendor security holes
> because they see that as just another proof that the vendors are
> corrupt and crap, which admittedly mostly are," Torvalds states.
>
> Torvalds went on to say he views both camps as "crazy."
>
> "Both camps are whoring themselves out for their own reasons, and both
> camps point fingers at each other as a way to cement their own reason
> for existence," Torvalds asserts.
> """
>
> 0. Torvalds Interview with Network World , 08/14/2008
> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/081408-torvalds-security-circus.html
>
> [ ED: Dr. Diggle the Zoologist grunt / proctologist has lots of company, lol ]

-- 
noon silky
http://www.themonkeynet.com/armada/
http://www.themonkeynet.com/

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