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Message-Id: <20080818090256.4DD352003D@mailserver7.hushmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:02:54 +0200
From: ff0000@...hmail.com
To: sec-community@...goodhacker.com
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: 
	[funsec] Internet attacks against Georgian	web s ites

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There's no need as n3td3v got see-throught powa + thight pants

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:23:36 +0200 William McAfee <sec-
community@...goodhacker.com> wrote:
>Would you mind elaborating on your actual evidence?  All I see is
>logic,
>but I do not see much hard fact.  I'm not agreeing, I'm not
>disagreeing.
>I'm just asking for clarification.
>
>On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 01:08 +0100, n3td3v wrote:
>> By the way, Russian sites have been hacked as well. So why is
>everyone
>> only talking about the Georgian sites and infrastructure? If
>Russian
>> sites and infrastructure is down as well that means the Georgian
>> government has hacked them, doesn't it Or does it? Or is the
>whole
>> thing just a false flag by the U.S government underworld to
>infulence
>> McCain and Obama as they are potentially coming in to the white
>house?
>>
>> It seems to me that there is bias towards Russia in the security
>> community and that people don't really care if Russia was
>hacked,
>> because the community seem to have already chosen who they like
>and
>> who they are going to support and who they are going to point
>blame
>> at.
>>
>> I don't think westerners have ever liked Russia, so as soon as
>> something like this happens, folks straight away are bias
>towards
>> Russia.
>>
>> You've got to remember this could easily be a false flag cyber
>attack
>> to setup Russia to make them look bad while ramping up cyber
>security
>> as a national security agenda as Marcus Sachs
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSUPTZVlkyU says in the Youtube
>video.
>>
>> The reasons for a false flag cyber attack is there, the evidence
>has
>> been put in front of you by n3td3v.
>>
>> This isn't just some false flag conspiracy, there are plausible
>> reasons why this could be a false flag.
>>
>> In the video Marcus Sachs asked the audience for ways we could
>make
>> cyber security a national security agenda, false flagging
>something
>> like the Georgian and Russian websites and infrastructure is not
>a way
>> the government underworld might make cyber security a national
>> security agenda?
>>
>> I call a false flag, and I find it suspicious that people are
>only
>> talking about the Georgian websites and infrastructure being
>cyber
>> attacked and not the Russian stuff as well.
>>
>> I would be interested in what answers the audience gave to
>Marcus
>> Sachs, but thats not in the video unfortunately.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> n3td3v
>>
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