full-disclosure - Re: Linus summarizes state of the "security industry" with precision and accuracy.

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Message-ID: <d8d979980808181842s29a08464ka38f0b2bd0f157a8@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:42:58 -0400
From: "Erik Harrison" <eharrison@...il.com>
To: "Simon Valiquette" <v.simon@...e.org>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Linus summarizes state of the "security
	industry" with precision and accuracy.

please refer to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jokes

and possibly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT8uiT_rZ5k

please feel free to laugh, snicker or otherwise enjoy yourself.

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Simon Valiquette <v.simon@...e.org> wrote:

> John C. A. Bambenek, GCIH, CISSP un jour écrivit:
> > Who's Linus?
> >
>
>  Are you seriously asking that, or just trying to start a "flamefest" (in
> which case, looking like clueless is a good attempt).
>
>  Unless you are very Junior in the computer field (and even then), you
> should have heard of Linus Benedict Torvalds.  It should be very basic
> general knowledge for someone in the computer security field, like knowing
> who is Dr. Bernstein, Bjarne Stroustrup, Denis Ritchies, Dijkstra and many
> others.  They are not necessarily directly related to computer security,
> but their contributions all have significant impact in today security
> field.
>
>  Instead of telling you who is Linus, I'll tell you a well garded secret:
> most famous people are described in Wikipedia.  And even if they are not,
> It is usualy very easy to find something using Google.
>
>
>  Well, probably another proof that showing a certification is not the
> same than showing expertise in a field.
>
>
> Simon Valiquette
>
>
> >>>
> >>> 0. Torvalds Interview with Network World , 08/14/2008
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/081408-torvalds-security-circus.html
>  >>>
> >>    Isn't that quite old news?  Not only the article doesn't offer
> anything
> >> new, but It also doesn't give the full picture and offer very little
> >> useful information compared to the real discussion.
> >>
> >>   I did read the thread at this time, and there was many interesting
> >> ideas.  If I happens to see an article that resume well the issues
> >> involved, I'll post a link, but I won't spend much time searching, so
> >> don't wait after me.
> >>
> >>
> >>   By the way, Linus Torvalds is very well known to enjoy starting flames
> >> on purpose (he calls that "flamefesting").  This time, the troll was
> trown
> >> at OpenBSD, but It was too big to be taken seriously by them, so It is
> >> mostly the security people that reacted.
> >>
> >>   I prefer the troll he launched last year when he basically said that
> >> Gnome is just a waste of time and than both users and developers should
> >> just give-up and move on to KDE, which would be a much better and
> >> productive use of their time.  It was said in 2007 directly on some
> major
> >> Gnome mailing list, like his previous flames against Gnome. :o)
> >>
> >>
> >> Simon Valiquette
> >>
>
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