full-disclosure - Re: Port Randomization: New revision of our IETF Internet-Draft

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Message-ID: <48BD8365.2060308@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:18:13 +0800
From: Pavel Labushev <p.labushev@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Port Randomization: New revision of our IETF
 Internet-Draft

Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu ?????:
> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:17:43 +0800, Pavel Labushev said:
> 
>> "SECURITY PATCH tag on a fix" helps me to know that there is the problem 
>> and I must consider the patch, check its correctness and maybe 
>> test/backport/apply it to my production systems ASAP. Just as another 
>> tags helps me to know that there are realiability and other issues I 
>> must care about.
> 
> OK, now s/security patch/silent data corruption/ and tell me what's *actually*
> different.

The consequences are actually and obviously different. Now, please, try 
to figure out that by yourself. Forget about Linus' point. Pretend 
you're system administrator and try to think like one.

> Wow, you still need to consider it, check it, test it, and deploy it.

Not exactly.

> Unless of course you don't give a shit about your data.  But in that case,
> the security patch can probably be overlooked too.

Hint: the data can be backed up.

> That's Linus's point - if the patch is important enough to go into one of
> the -stable tree kernels, it's probably something you want to install, whether
> or not it's a security patch.

Whether or not so-called -stable kernels are always stable - is another 
question. And not a last one - there are more.

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