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Message-ID: <296a304a0810242053s1825e6f2yd2c66539a6435b53@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:53:09 -0400
From: "waveroad waveroad" <waveroad@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: RE :  Time to patch Windows boxes with MS08-067

Wow, can you give me your pusher phone number ?







2008/10/24 n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>

> "we" (the community) shouldn't be playing into the hacker spirit of
> things. by increasing your threat level publicly plays into the hacker
> mind-set that they can *take over* and be causing problems on a wider
> scale. we should be dampening the hacker spirit by not letting them
> visually see anyone panicking or there being an increased level of
> concern. don't give the overall aura that hackers can have an affect
> on us, and that even though we might be working hard behind the scenes
> in an increased level of busi-ness, this shouldn't be communicated
> outward to the hacker community, as it gives satisfaction to the
> hacker community as a whole that they are beating us down. its about
> psyops against the enemy, not that the threat level is not there, just
> don't communicate your fears and concerns outward to the hacker
> community, not just to those hackers willing to take part in attacks,
> but just everyone on looking and thinking, "look at them increasing
> their threat level because of "hackers""... don't give them that
> satisfaction and morale boost.---n3td3v.
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 3:16 AM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
> > On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:29:33 BST, n3td3v said:
> >> as soon as you rate, threat level something, the bad guys have won...
> >> its time to rethink public rating and threat levels.
> >
> > No, the bad guys win if they manage to pwn or DoS one of my systems or
> users.
> > Why do you think they win if we assign a threat level to something?
> >
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