Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 04:46:36 +0000
From: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

you seem like an hd moore/metasploit fan boy pissed off that i don't
respect him or like his metasploit software. n3td3v doesn't respect
people like the sheep do, i think for myself, have opinions about
other white hats that may not be in support of them. get used to it
bozo.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 4:34 AM, Biz Marqee <biz.marqee@...il.com> wrote:
> Acting like the child that he is, n3td3v continues to ignore questions posed
> to him. How can he be such an avid debater over the legality of things like
> metasploit, 0day auctions and similarly themed bullshit threads when he
> completely disregards drug laws? How do you intend to lobby people to listen
> to you when you are not a law abiding citizen yourself? You have no
> credibility in the eyes of the law, so don't psuedo threaten people trying
> to appear like you have some government backing. You have proven beyond
> doubt that you dont, because the government doesnt listen to drug taking
> internet heroes, such as yourself.
>
> So enough with the bullshit.. FUCK OFF AND DIE.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:02 PM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
>>
>> i'm sorry that you don't agree with my heads up theory, i stand by
>> what i said however. i'm sure microsoft don't read full-disclosure
>> anyway, so you're right i'm not going to change anything. by the way,
>> i've noticed you haven't stopped stalking me yet, im a bit concerned
>> about your health. cheers.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:44 AM, Ureleet <ureleet@...il.com> wrote:
>> > first off, u arent going to get any1 2 change anything. so, lets get
>> > that out of the way right there.
>> >
>> > second of all, in order for u 2 prove ur point, id like 4 u to go to
>> > some research of how many exploits have come out during the 5 day
>> > period between vague-ass disclosure and patch publish.  then compare
>> > and contrast that against how many exploits have come out in the 24
>> > hours following the patch publish after people have had a chance to do
>> > bindiffs (u know what that means right white-hat?) against the
>> > patches.  then, take all that data, draw some charts and graphs, write
>> > a whitepaper, and present it somewhere.
>> >
>> > u know what thats called?  research.  real ppl do it.
>> >
>> > u dont.  and that is why, u suck.  ta ta.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:34 PM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
>> >> so you don't think its logical that these 5 day heads up could be
>> >> helping the bad guys out? right. i think the world's biggest hackers
>> >> could do a lot of research in 5 days. but then again n3td3v isn't
>> >> logical so i must be wrong. damn those drugs eh? i just asked what the
>> >> realistic possibility was for a 5 day turn around from the day of the
>> >> heads up until a patch is released. i just thought it was bad that we
>> >> were giving the bad guys a 5 day head start, but never mind n3td3v
>> >> isn't logical so i must be wrong. scraping the 5 day head start isn't
>> >> a good idea because n3td3v isn't logical? right, i threw away 10 years
>> >> of my life to not be logical...
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:20 AM, waveroad waveroad <waveroad@...il.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> You can be ""monitoring"" the scene since 20 years if you want to,
>> >>> it's not
>> >>> for that your point will be valuable.
>> >>> And actually it is not, also this is about logic.
>> >>>
>> >>> See you're wrong again.
>> >>>
>> >>> Get the fuck out of here.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 2008/11/6, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> i've been monitoring the scene since 1999 so what do you mean no
>> >>>> experience? i make that about 10 years experience if my math is
>> >>>> correct.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Biz Marqee <biz.marqee@...il.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> > Do you even understand why people dont like you? It is because you
>> >>>> > have
>> >>>> > all
>> >>>> > these crackpot ideas but no experience to back it up. All your
>> >>>> > ideas
>> >>>> > only
>> >>>> > make sense from a theoretical standpoint, but in practicality most
>> >>>> > will
>> >>>> > fail.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:31 AM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> blackhats like you will always hate on me, so i just ignore the
>> >>>> >> negative responses i get.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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