full-disclosure - Re: Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

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Message-ID: <1bde4ec50811062318k1f3d51d7rec374a6e7f74dce9@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 07:18:18 +0000
From: Col <colweb@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008/11/6 n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>:
<snip>
> i'm not sure this is a good idea as it gives a heads up to hackers.
> you may think its not long but its actually 5 days for a hacker to
> figure out potentially a vulnerability in said area. maybe we should
> have a discussion about the pros and cons of these microsoft heads up
> and what the reality of it is for the bad guys to be able to pin point
> and start exploiting a flaw in said area in a 5 day time frame. yours
> n3td3v.

I don't think any hacker is going to bother spending 5 days looking
for a needle in a haystack when he can reverse engineer specific files
once the patch is released. I know very little of looking for pointers
in DLLs but from what I've seen it looks like a bit of a nightmare.
The best way is to "diff" two files - the un-patched and the patched
then you see where the changes are.

Of course if you had thought about it or done *any* research before
you posted you would already have made that point.

I am not a white/grey/black/pink hat I'm just an NT Admin type person
who monitors this list for Full Disclosure of bugs in software.
Instead I have trawl through your incessant ramblings on most days.
Yes I have filters set up in Gmail of course, but I still have to deal
with the replies, which before you go on about it are justifiably
offensive because you've polluted this list for years with your crap -
most have had enough of it.

Now please go and get a job in something completely different so you
can sleep through the night like the rest of us.

Regards,

Colin.

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