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Message-ID: <4b6ee9310811090729tc2a0e43x5c4c5b6d667096b1@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 15:29:14 +0000
From: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: n3td3v warns sans is being brought into
	disrepute by pauldotcom

This isn't n3tcr4p, this is a wide issue shared by many people
including a british telecom engineer.

http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2008-October/065252.html

n3td3v will not be 'getting the fuck out of here' i'll be here for ten
years or more. im here for the long term.

On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 2:10 AM, waveroad waveroad <waveroad@...il.com> wrote:
> No one care about n3tcr4p
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> Get the fuck out of here.
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> 2008/11/8, Biz Marqee <biz.marqee@...il.com>:
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>> Dont worry about n3td3v, hes probably been up all night abusing drugs and
>> cant find his return key... that or hes typing one handed trying to fend off
>> his fathers sex attacks.
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>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:26 AM, nnp <version5@...il.com> wrote:
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>>> Idiot says something about group I haven't heard of.
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>>> Learn to use line breaks arsehole!
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>>> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 6:47 PM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
>>> > pauldotcom are gangsters masquerading as security professionals, this
>>> > is the opinion of n3td3v. they have a bad name not only because of
>>> > n3td3v but its widely thought by others that pauldotcom are
>>> > questionable entities, this is why n3td3v believes that its a bad
>>> > thing that sans are associated with them, and in time could start to
>>> > bring down the respected name of the sans institute. there are already
>>> > misdemeanors who have managed to get into sans through the internet
>>> > storm center door who are in support of pauldotcom enterprises. n3td3v
>>> > predicts the longer sans are associated with pauldotcom the greater
>>> > they eat away at the credibility and respect that sans built up before
>>> > pauldotcom came onto the scene. there are good people at sans and this
>>> > is why n3td3v is concerned that the good people at sans are being
>>> > bought into disrepute because of pauldotcom and entities who have
>>> > crept into sans through the sans handlers gateway. n3td3v suggests
>>> > both sides consider their positions before moving forward and having
>>> > future association with one another. there have been multiple reports
>>> > on the full-disclosure list that pauldotcom hasn't been upto scratch,
>>> > its time for sans to start to take feedback seriously that is being
>>> > presented to them and consider dropping pauldotcom as a partner of the
>>> > sans brand.
>>> >
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