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Message-Id: <20081120143238.91A522003F@smtp.hushmail.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:32:38 -0500
From: adrian.lamo@...hmail.com
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, juha-matti.laurio@...ti.fi
Subject: Re: Fwd: Three London hospitals have been forced
	to shut down their entire computer systems for at least 24
	hours after being hit by a virus

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Dear Juha-Matti Blogger,

Can you produce any verifiable cryptographic hashes to support your
statement?

- -al

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:04:11 -0500 Juha-Matti Laurio <juha-
matti.laurio@...ti.fi> wrote:
>Just a quick note to the list that I am not a subscriber of that
>n3td3v mailing list mentioned and I have no need to use ideas from
>that list.
>Additionally, I don't even know where the n3td3v mailing list
>archive exists.
>
>Juha-Matti
>
>n3td3v [xploitable@...il.com] kirjoitti:
>> don't argue with the heavily involved cut-n-paste people! they
>are far
>> better than the non-involved cut-n-paste people at cutting and
>> pasting. even though the same news that is on funsec is on
>n3td3v
>> hours before funsec. im faster at cutting and pasting than they
>are,
>> and its known that the funsec'ers are taking cut-n-paste ideas
>from
>> the n3td3v group and posting them into funsec. there are too
>many
>> familiar match ups with the stories on funsec that are on n3td3v
>> group. in "news" its all about timing, and funsec just don't
>> cut-n-paste good enough compared to n3td3v mailing-list-group.
>i've
>> had a look at my members list, and yes, key funsec members are
>> subscribed and are sleuthing cut-n-paste ideas from my group
>into
>> their group. who's the cut-n-paste daddy then?
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:34 PM,  <adrian.lamo@...hmail.com>
>wrote:
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>> > Don't argue with the stache.
>> >
>> > On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:47:52 -0500 n3td3v
><xploitable@...il.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:34 PM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu>
>wrote:
>> >>> 1) They almost certainly were more involved in it than the
>cut-n-
>> >>paste says.
>> >>
>> >>so why do they offer no unique information with their cut-n-
>paste
>> >>if
>> >>they are so heavily involved?
>> >>
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