full-disclosure - Re: Security industry software license

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Message-ID: <D832A5822BF14C9BADB05589465998F9@Appiant>
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 03:41:15 -0600
From: "Joel Helgeson" <joel@...geson.com>
To: "Mike C" <mike.cartall@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Security industry software license

Please tell me there is sarcasm there?
The exploiter can either use the exploited machine to make money, which 
makes him indistinguisable from every other punk on the net, or they access 
it simply to destroy it; which makes them a malicious punk.  Either way, I 
am not terrorized, and Ramzi al-binwhatever ain't gonna make it to paradise 
or get his 72 myspace virgins (or second life, or whatever).

The Jihadists have no use for the levels of intelligence gathering networks 
that the Russian empire has. What the heck to Jihadists care who the chain 
of command is - they lack the military discipline to think that far ahead.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike C" <mike.cartall@...il.com>
To: "Joel Helgeson" <joel@...geson.com>
Cc: "Some Guy Posting To Full Disclosure" <fd.leach@...glemail.com>; 
<full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 2:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Security industry software license

> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Joel Helgeson <joel@...geson.com> wrote:
>> I agree - the biggest BS term in existence is the term "Cyberterror".  If 
>> my
>> web server crashes, is it the result of a Jihadist? Do I care?
>
> Yes! The kind of exploiter decides the kind of evil thing that would
> be done from a zombie machine. You wouldnt want your PC to be a part
> of an enemy state's arsenal, or an extremist religious organization
> now, would you?
>
> -- 
> MC
> Security Researcher
> Lead, Project Chroma
> http://sites.google.com/site/projectchromaproject/ 

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