full-disclosure - Re: Lazy bum approach to security

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Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:59:06 -0500
From: Ureleet <ureleet@...il.com>
To: "andrew. wallace" <andrew.wallace@...ketmail.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Lazy bum approach to security

i agree.  people need 2 b more proactive, instead of reactive.

On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 1:16 PM, andrew. wallace
<andrew.wallace@...ketmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Mike C <mike.cartall@...il.com> wrote:
>> I'm sure theres no reason to doubt that. The fact remains full-disclosure is
>> where it all happens.
>
> You're taking yourself into a false sense of security there. If you
> sit on a mailing list like full-disclosure and expect everything to be
> brought to you on a plate you are mistaken. You can't take the lazy
> bum approach to security and say, everything I need to know is on
> full-disclosure. From my experience the majority of stuff goes on in
> the underground communities, full-disclosure is only essentially an
> announcement list, the rest is going on in individual communities.
> What you need to do is get yourself dug into the underground
> communities, you need to get yourself informants and build
> relationships with members of communities, you _really_ can't sit on
> full-disclosure and expect every security community and hacker
> community to bring everything to you. I'm not talking about the n3td3v
> group here because luckily I forward the key stuff to full-disclosure
> for the lazy bums who can't be bothered to engaged in individual
> communities and their members. Let me say though, the real
> intelligence isn't on full-disclosure its elsewhere.
>
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