full-disclosure - Re: Project Chroma: A color code for the state ofcyber security

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Message-ID: <6f4bb0b50812041738yec1d227n1b3d355761b50020@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:38:48 -0500
From: ghost <ghosts@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Project Chroma: A color code for the state
	ofcyber security

A colour scheme will save the world huh? So theyll be more dangerous
when its red? Wont it always be red? why not just cut out the color
scheme and emboss "THE INTERNET IS DANGEROUS, SERIOUS BUSINESS!" on
every monitor. It will do the exact same thing your suggesting.
without taking up my screen space.

> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Mike C <mike.cartall@...il.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Elazar Broad <elazar@...hmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:50:46 -0500 rholgstad <rholgstad@...il.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>Mike C wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, rholgstad <rholgstad@...il.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> and how does making a color based on these inputs protect
>>>>people?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Once all desktops have an icon or widget (say at the right hand
>>>>> corner) with the color, and this is consistently seen
>>>>everywhere, the
>>>>> users will start associating with their online security. they
>>>>will be
>>>>> reminded that they have to be careful with the data they share.
>>>>>
>>>>> This, if implemented correctly will be a boon to security
>>>>industry,
>>>>> where the weakest kinks currently are 'n00b'  users.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>you are joking right?
>>>>
>>>>So some widget is going to stop the next SMB remote or IE client
>>>>side
>>>>and protect the 'n00b' users? Please explain how this works. Also
>>>>please
>>>>explain how "they will be reminded that they have to be careful
>>>>with the
>>>>data they share. " has anything to do with protecting a users
>>>>machine
>>>>from being compromised.
>>>
>>> Thats the whole point. There is a fine line between using visual
>>> alerts to put people(Joe six pack) into a state of "awareness"(more
>>> like mild hysteria) of a threat versus knowing how to protect
>>> oneself against that threat and using that awareness indicator as
>>> the kick in the ass to get moving and shore up the defenses(hell,
>>> how many security folk do this too, then again, every time
>>> something goes bump we see red). Visual alerts are great at
>>> persuasion tools, especially when the goal is to get Joe to buy
>>> your latest all-in-one-will-make-your-coffee-and-buy-you-beer
>>> AV/Malware/Spyware/Foo(whats this doing here?)/evil monkey in the
>>> closet package. So of course, Joe will never learn how to properly
>>> defend his computer/data, and the "industry" will prosper.
>>>
>>
>> I dont think it is a lost battle. This method could prove an excellent
>> way to solve this age old problem.
>>
>>> Now, thanks to our good friends over at the DHS, the color system
>>> has turned into a complete and utter joke(for the most part), so my
>>> friend, you see, this a complete exercise in futility(besides the
>>> fact that every friggin AV/IDS/Security/SIM company out there has
>>> red, yellow and green as their corporate "flag", if you are just
>>> joining the party, then you can completely ignore this)
>>>
>> DHS implementation leaves a lot to be desired. Please do not compare
>> this to DHS's implementation.
>>
>>> If you really want to change state of security for the n00bs,
>>> spread the knowledge, not the colors.
>>>
>> Thats what project Chroma is all about.. Are you on board?!
>>
>> --
>> MC
>> Security Researcher
>> Lead, Project Chroma
>> http://sites.google.com/site/projectchromaproject/
>>
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