full-disclosure - Re: Fwd: FD culture!?

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Message-ID: <754924960812070911w27576fcer3575e0c3c1fd9585@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 22:56:45 +0545
From: "Bipin Gautam" <bipin.gautam@...il.com>
To: vulcanius <vulcanius@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Fwd: FD culture!?

>> The charter is just a guideline, its got no law or authority.
>>

Dude see this is the problem! Guidelines are like moral duties...
Relate it to, like the moral duties
of a citizen and we are (generally) obligated to act accordingly as
the countrymen. If everything were bound by law including your (moral)
duties you wouldnt have freedom in a true sense, really. Like the
freedom you have in FD... and you can choose to speak whatever you
wish, but its your moral duty to act accordingly to the popular
interest.

In your college or workplace you know you are infamous yet alwaysss
choose to be on the spotlight? How good is that to be unpopular in a
mass and yet choose to "speak to all" . You dont do such in the real
life, do you? Same goes to your presence and participation here in FD
mailing list.

But, I am not actually commenting against any person or group but the
"mindset" and the trend of soo much off topic that is making FD
boring.........

Who said, just the kids are annoying!

peace :)

On 12/7/08, vulcanius <vulcanius@...il.com> wrote:
> It's pretty hilarious that you went and asked John to moderate those who
> don't like you n3td3v and then turned around and criticized people for
> wanting the same thing, except on a more unbiased level. I'm pretty positive
> Cartwright doesn't give a shit about the quality of the list as I'm guessing
> he unsubbed himself a looong time ago.
>
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 1:30 AM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 6:25 AM, Bipin Gautam <bipin.gautam@...il.com>
>> wrote:
>> > On 12/7/08, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> What's John Cartwright got to do with an unmoderated mailing list? You
>> >> joined F-D because you thought it would be partially moderated when
>> >> someone *you~* don't agree with annoys you? lolcopter. You know where
>> >> the unsubscribe button is if you don't like this style of mailing list
>> >> management, please use it instead of moaning. On a side note, I
>> >> already asked for Ureleet to be banned, but Cartwright's not
>> >> interested in partially moderating an unmoderated mailing list. Would
>> >> you rather the list was partially moderated?
>> >
>> > No... but least, less noise! We have two eyes, two ears but one mouth
>> > for a reason. Listen more, look more but talk less.
>> >
>> > I am complaining because whats happening in FD contradicts to;
>> >
>> >
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > Acceptable Content
>> >
>> > Any information pertaining to vulnerabilities is acceptable, for
>> > instance announcement and discussion thereof, exploit techniques and
>> > code, related tools and papers, and other useful information.
>> >
>> > Gratuitous advertisement, product placement, or self-promotion is
>> > forbidden. Disagreements, flames, arguments, and off-topic discussion
>> > should be taken off-list wherever possible.
>> >
>> > Humour is acceptable in moderation, providing it is inoffensive.
>> > Politics should be avoided at all costs.
>> >
>> > Members are reminded that due to the open nature of the list, they
>> > should use discretion in executing any tools or code distributed via
>> > this list.
>> >
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Lastly, i request you all to only post things that we-all may find
>> > interesting to read. Personal replies are better taken off-list.
>> > Please keep noise low.
>> >
>> > Please help us to like you more!
>> >
>>
>> The charter is just a guideline, its got no law or authority.
>>

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