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Message-ID: <8a6b8e350812082213q55e1a819id59dc29545ebdaa4@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 08:13:44 +0200
From: "James Matthews" <nytrokiss@...il.com>
To: "Elazar Broad" <elazar@...hmail.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: U.S. Is Losing Global Cyberwar,
	Commission Says

They are trying to get the government to do something about it. But unless
they see the danger not just hear about it nothing will happen.

Consider remarks before Congress last year by O. Sami Saydjari, CEO of Cyber
Defense Agency <http://www.cyberdefenseagency.com/>, a security research and
consulting firm, and a former official at the Defense Dept.'s research arm,
DARPA. Following a major cyber-attack, he told legislators, electricity,
banking, and communications could all go dead, leaving Americans scrounging
for food, water, gasoline—even hunks of firewood traded on the black market.


On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:39 AM, Elazar Broad <elazar@...hmail.com> wrote:

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> On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:28:52 -0500 "Rafal @ IsHackingYou.com"
> <rafal@...ackingyou.com> wrote:
> >Ivan, all,
> >
> >    Hold the phone...$5k-$7k to fix an infected device!?  Really?
> >HOLY
> >CRAP... either that's a completely made-up "FUD" figure, or the
> >government
> >contractors are making *way* too much money off my taxes.
> >
> >__
> >Rafal M. Los
> >IT Security - Response | Mitigation | Strategy
> >
> >E-mail:  rafal@...ackingyou.com
> > - Blog:         http://preachsecurity.blogspot.com
> >
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> >From: "Ivan ." <ivanhec@...il.com>
> >Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 5:14 PM
> >To: "Full-Disclosure mailing list" <full-
> >disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
> >Subject: [Full-disclosure] U.S. Is Losing Global Cyberwar,
> >Commission Says
> >
> >>
> >http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/dec2008/db20081
> >27_817606.htm
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