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Message-Id: <20081209172036.619E7118040@smtp.hushmail.com>
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:20:36 -0500
From: "Elazar Broad" <elazar@...hmail.com>
To: nytrokiss@...il.com
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: U.S. Is Losing Global Cyberwar,
	Commission Says

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I think most of us realize that even with the hard work of many
good people in and out of the security industry this country's
cyber security amounts to some swiss cheese, and there is plenty of
blame to go around. Let's face it though, no one thinks that by
failing to properly secure their computer and/or information they
could possibly be aiding our terrorist friends. For one, there have
been been links between funding for various groups and carding.
Changing the public opinion and mindset might go a long way
especially if its something like "your credit card could be funding
the next 911", that's just a though though. As for those who have
been there, done that, all your work isn't for naught. I may not
like his tax plan, but Obama definitely is headed in the right
direction by appointing a CTO for this country as well as taking
cyber security seriously. Its about damned time!

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:13:44 -0500 James Matthews
<nytrokiss@...il.com> wrote:
>They are trying to get the government to do something about it.
>But unless
>they see the danger not just hear about it nothing will happen.
>
>Consider remarks before Congress last year by O. Sami Saydjari,
>CEO of Cyber
>Defense Agency <http://www.cyberdefenseagency.com/>, a security
>research and
>consulting firm, and a former official at the Defense Dept.'s
>research arm,
>DARPA. Following a major cyber-attack, he told legislators,
>electricity,
>banking, and communications could all go dead, leaving Americans
>scrounging
>for food, water, gasoline—even hunks of firewood traded on the
>black market.
>
>
>On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:39 AM, Elazar Broad <elazar@...hmail.com>
>wrote:
>
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>> They ain't called beltway bandits for nothing...
>>
>> On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:28:52 -0500 "Rafal @ IsHackingYou.com"
>> <rafal@...ackingyou.com> wrote:
>> >Ivan, all,
>> >
>> >    Hold the phone...$5k-$7k to fix an infected device!?
>Really?
>> >HOLY
>> >CRAP... either that's a completely made-up "FUD" figure, or the
>> >government
>> >contractors are making *way* too much money off my taxes.
>> >
>> >__
>> >Rafal M. Los
>> >IT Security - Response | Mitigation | Strategy
>> >
>> >E-mail:  rafal@...ackingyou.com
>> > - Blog:         http://preachsecurity.blogspot.com
>> >
>> >--------------------------------------------------
>> >From: "Ivan ." <ivanhec@...il.com>
>> >Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 5:14 PM
>> >To: "Full-Disclosure mailing list" <full-
>> >disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
>> >Subject: [Full-disclosure] U.S. Is Losing Global Cyberwar,
>> >Commission Says
>> >
>> >>
>>
>>http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/dec2008/db2008
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>> >27_817606.htm
>> >>
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