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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:28:57 -0500
From: "Elazar Broad" <elazar@...hmail.com>
To: lscharf@...edu, krymson@...il.com
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: U.S. Is Losing Global Cyberwar,
	Commission Says

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"You should revisit this opinion after you're out of school and in
the workforce for 5 years. :)"

6 years and counting, a little cynicism never hurt anyone. On a
side note, I am well aware of the impact that PCI has had on the
industry(currently involved in a project which falls in the realm
of PCI compliance), those on the council as well as the those in
the field pushing and advocating the standards have done some great
work, unfortunately(and it is not their fault), its not enough...

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:27:19 -0500 Michael Krymson
<krymson@...il.com> wrote:
>Like tiny Link holding the almighty Triforce braced overhead
>glinting in the
>sunlight, so too shall we raise up PCI to the heavens as our
>shining,
>guiding light of all things good; it will save us from all evils,
>so shall
>it be...
>
>You should revisit this opinion after you're out of school and in
>the
>workforce for 5 years. :)
>
>On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Luke Scharf <lscharf@...edu>
>wrote:
>
>> Elazar Broad wrote:
>> > Neither, because ultimately no one cares, and that is why the
>> > financial industry foots the 60 billion identity theft bill.
>My
>> > rant was a little bit of wishful thinking and a shred of
>belief in
>> > the human race...
>> >
>>
>> Having been a student in a computer-security training class
>taught by
>> one of the people who helps banks deal with these problems, I'd
>say
>> you're wrong.  This is a hard set of problems.  Smart people are
>working
>> on it -- not everywhere, but in enough places to make a
>difference.
>>
>> Read the PCI and learn its role in the financial industry.  Then
>this
>> conversation will become interesting.  Here's a link to get you
>started:
>>    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_DSS
>>
>> -Luke
>>
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