full-disclosure - Re: Microsoft issues out-of-band patch

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Message-ID: <4b6ee9310812191223j6fd039c4s8c4b276ee02dc896@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:23:57 +0000
From: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
To: "Bipin Gautam" <bipin.gautam@...il.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Cc: n3td3v <n3td3v@...glegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Microsoft issues out-of-band patch

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Bipin Gautam <bipin.gautam@...il.com> wrote:
> stop putting so much of attention to 0-day and possible use of it by
> government to get into a terrorist pc.
>
> if breaking into someones pc was a matter of national security
> importance 0-day may provide a easy leverage but you really dont need
> a 0-day to get into someones pc, neither you'd need a already
> existing/known backdoor, neither you'd need to bruteforce into the
> advisory or a physical access to it.
>
> all they need to do is poison a unsigned executable/plugin/update with
> a backdoor instead, that is being downloaded to the advisory computer
> over an unencrypted connection if you can control the network gateway
> or have isp level access. such attacks "could" work regardless of the
> OS or patch level.
>

You're giving the bad guys clues on what to avoid or will the bad guys
be aware of all the possible attack vectors the government might be
using already?

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