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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0901041557310.4588@uplift.swm.pp.se>
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 16:06:09 +0100 (CET)
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@....pp.se>
To: Alaa Abdelwahab <alaa.abdelwahab@...e.fr>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: The war in Palestine

On Sun, 4 Jan 2009, Alaa Abdelwahab wrote:

> The strategies are changing but what should never be changed is your
> believes and your rights.

This opinion is causing the majority of the bloodshed in the world today.

> Regarding if it is productive pr not. Do you have a better ideas?
> Palatines have tried the peace, and look what they have got, a state with no
> resources, they have been controlled by the Israeli Army, Israel should
> agree on who come and who go, they give or not give water/power/Feul/....

The argument can be made that Israel also tried peace, but it was 
responded with my bombings etc. Atrocities have been commited by both 
sides, this is an neverending argument. Both sides need to decide that 
they want peace, make sure they have representatives that also believe in 
this, and then they need to sit down and decide what to do, execute it and 
at the same time curb extremism in their own midst.

> The number of Palestinians are much more than the Israeli ppl, and look at
> the map and see how much land they were given. Gaza is the most crowded city
> in the world, while Israel gives a big houses and parks in their settlements
> for Jewish ppl from all over the world.

This is the current situation, it wasn't like this historically. Trying to 
argue that one side is evil by looking at latest developments is always a 
slippery road. You just before said that there were 5000 rockets launched 
in the past 8 years into Israel? Isn't that evil?

This leads nowhere.

> I think not everyone will make the same choice about just live with what 
> we have now and don't look at the history, even now you are trying to 
> force your choice on them. They have the right to chose.

Force? As opposed to the parties involved here, I am writing/talking, 
instead of promoting bloodshed.

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@....pp.se

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