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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:52:47 +0200
From: Coolz <c00l.z3r0@...il.com>
To: Handrix <handrix@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: The war in Palestine

Congratulation's handrix, and few other people here.
for proving you amazing history and middle east knowledge.
few facts (I'm from Israel, and also in the idf, for everyone who want 
few more reasons to hate me):
In the beginning of the 20th century there were almost no Arabs in the 
land of Israel. However, the Jews, in spite of
two thousand years of persecution, have been the majority of the 
population there during most of the history. In Jerusalem- they have 
always been the majority. When general Alenby , the commander of the 
British army, conquered Israel in 1917-1918, he found only a few 
thousands Arabs. Other Muslims in the region came from Turkey, or were 
the descendants of Jews and Christians who were forced to change their 
religion by the Muslims conquerers- but none of them was originally Arab.

That about the so called Palestine country and all of that crap. (btw, 
if you care about it you may want to search for Philip Hitti
AN ARAB PHD for middle east history who said: "it is well known that 
there is no such thing as Palestine in the history"
there are few other arabs how said pretty much the same... just search it.)

for the hamas part, please search for the Fatah, after that, you might 
ask so why did the Gaza strip people voted for hamas in democratically 
election? simple, hamas give them food, money and other things if they 
join them in the fight against israel, hamas control the fuel, hospital 
and most of the guns in the Gaza strip, they  threat  people and made 
them vote hamas, i won't go on with that line, so handrix and few other 
people here won't say I'm telling lies.

from the year 2000 hamas is firing rockets (grad, improved grad qaasam 
and  other rockets) the numbers that people wrote here are not even 
close to the real numbers. so what would you do?  if your country was 
bombed each day, day after day even when you are not doing anything (and 
for a long time the idf didn't do anything in gaza) during the cease 
fire hamas still fire rockets to israeli civilian and military targets!
so don't say its israeli propaganda or lies, hamas is a terrorist 
organization and nothing else matter, we gave them option to stop this 
stupid fight, they didn't took it. (for example, on the other of israel 
judea and samaria, israel is letting all the arab enter israel and work, 
not shooting down anybody and they are not under any israeli control, 
read about the fatah if you care about what is going on with the israeli 
arabs.

Israel is doing everything it can in order to hurt only hamas people and 
is doing everything in our power not to hit civilians
no one, including the UN,USA or anyone else  has the civilians hit rate 
that the IDF is achieving in the small, crowded Gaza strip (usa bombed 
weddings and pure civilians targets in Afghanistan, UN is not enforcing 
there own rules about fire arms in Lebanon, Iraq war do i really need to 
say anything else?)

so please think again before you spread your ignorance to the world.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not 
sure about the universe."

beside that,
I'm sorry for for the English mistakes i probably have, as you can 
understand, i speak Hebrew as prime language, not English
Hopefully that i managed to show you the bigger picture (more then a 
half a million Israelis that are suffering daily from hamas rockets for 
something that only the hamas can be blamed on) 

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