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Message-ID: <4b6ee9310901051555h33f8272evc951ce561d764231@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:55:29 +0000
From: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
To: "Ed Carp" <erc@...ox.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Full-Disclosure wouldn't let me post this
	message

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Ed Carp <erc@...ox.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, n3td3v wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Ed Carp <erc@...ox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:33 PM, j-f sentier <j.sentiar@...il.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> They shouldn't let you post at all.
>>>
>>> LOL!  Thanks for the chuckle!
>>
>> Can we have conversation about my opinion on using 'cyber protest'
>> instead of 'cyber war'?
>
> Well, we could, but I'm not sure what it has to do with the charter of this
> list.  Besides, I get the idea from reading this list that people have more
> fun bashing you than they do talking about subjects this list was created to
> address.  I get the idea that the list has no COPPA filtering (no one 13 or
> younger allowed), nor does it have any sort of maturity level filtering.
>  Unfortunately.
> --
> Ed Carp, N7EKG - erc@...ox.com - ** PGP or GPG encrypted email preferred **
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>
> "A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to
> take everything you have."  -- Barry Goldwater
>

The profit making sector of the security community are determined to
use 'cyber war', and i'm determined to downplay it as a 'cyber
protest' since I have no profiteering motivation. Although using
'cyber war' could actually cause damage and confusion to society if
not used correctly. And when the real cyber war comes, what are they
gonna call cyber war? Because society will already have been
normalized into thinking its something non-important that isn't going
to impact the public-at-large.

Why do you think news outlet's like BBC News aren't quick to use the
'cyber war' label when its just a bunch of kids doing a 'cyber
protest'? It's because the BBC is one of the most respected public
news services in the world and they don't want to mislead and cause
panic, in the same way they don't want to mislead the population into
think 'cyber war' is just something that happens, and not something
they should ever be alarmed about.

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