Message-ID: <debd9f860901120655h62faaaf2qd20655f7404a36f9@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:55:26 +1100
From: "quispiam lepidus" <quispiam.lepidus@...il.com>
To: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: I'm not the troll i've been trolled

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:01 AM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
> I've been the victim of trolls they see me as a good target to pick on
> because I run the n3td3v intelligence group

It's an intelligence group now? (Isn't that an oxymoron?) What
happened to your security group?

> and i'm going to apply for mi5.

Just the other day you were eluding to the fact that you already did.

> your everyday people can't run security because their ideas are
> too ordinary and they come up with nothing new.

Please enlighten us with your revolutionary ideas, we're all ears.

> don't call me a troll i've been a victim of trolling.

As the saying goes, "If the shoe fits".

> "groundzero security" and "ureleet"
> are trolls,

No argument with that. However, it's kind of a chicken and the egg
scenario. If you weren't here, there is a high probability ureleet
wouldn't be either. Perhaps you would consider "taking one for the
team"?

> they seen someone with an indepth underworld life that i
> can talk about that others don't believe because the secret world of
> spooks is often unbelievable to ordinary folks and thats where people
> think i must be trolling.

Delusions of grandeur again. What "in depth underworld life"? All
you've demonstrated is your ability to barrage FD with inane rant.
Watching the Bourne trilogy doesn't count towards insight into the
world of spooks.

> the fact is i've never trolled the n3td3v
> group is real and i'll be applying for mi5 real soon.

Good luck with that. I'd suggest reinventing yourself, as your current
persona has been tarnished beyond repair.

>there is no mental illness or anything else, thats just something thought up by
> trolls to get me to reply even more.

I hear getting past denial is the first stage to recovery.

> they want people to hate me

No need, you do a good enough job of that yourself.

> because they don't understand me because lots of what's going on
> cannot be talked about publicly,

Uh huh. As your other new persona would say *giggles*

> so they say why do you think you're a
> researcher, you don't research anything. trust me i'n reseraching a
> lot all the time. I research open source intelligence such as mailing
> lists and websites, television and radio. as well as monitoring folks
> in social situations online and offline building up profile of folks.

I shall wait with baited breath to see some of this "research"
published, because in the whole time you've been posting to FD, you've
not provided one solid piece of original work that would suggest you
have any skills in the security research arena.

> you choose to troll me because you don't understand me and you
> probably never will, but make it be clear i'm the victim of trolling i
> haven't trolled.

So how would you define the shit you've been inundating FD with? I'm
seeing behaviour like a compulsive liar here, if you tell yourself
something enough, even you will end up believing it. Is that your
game? How is the following not a troll?

Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:50:45 +0000
From: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: [Full-disclosure] n3td3v is big in the security community
protecting the UK against the threats.

http://twitter.com/n3td3v/status/1100384047

> it's easy to spin me up because you know i will reply
> to defend myself and my replies you enjoy because they are different
> from joe the public replies, and once you've managed to spin me up
> enough,

Do yourself and everyone else a favor, don't reply.

> you can say n3td3v is the core problem on the list and
> everyone hates you

You are without a doubt the biggest problem on this list. There's been
a big shift of the FD scales over the last 12 months. As your rants
increased, the level of quality, informed posts dramatically
diminished. Coincidence?

As for everyone hating you, I'd probably go more along the lines of
"most people seriously dislike you".

> and look at your replies talking about intelligence
> and mi5,

Of which there is generally no substance.

> maybe thats because i run an intelligence group thats why i'm
> interested in it

It's good to have a hobby. But, like with politics and religion, it's
a bad idea to try an push your ill conceived ideas upon others.

> and i'll hope one day to collaborate with mi5

I thought you were going to work for them?

> to share intelligence on people, hackers and the threats. this is a
> secret underworld you've had some insight to and the way we think, you
> will not understand us, you will never understand unless you are part
> of it.

All of the insight I've had into the way you think quite frankly scares me.

> have a good time on your mailing list that you and you alone
> partially destroyed by trolling someone who is not afraid of defending
> myself publicly and tell people what i do on my real name or under the
> group name.

Actually, I think most of the credit for that goes to you. Bravo!
>
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