full-disclosure - Re: e-Holocaust

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Message-ID: <cd51a8c60901132308r3cce3b28t77ccbf010a0fd87a@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:08:37 +0200
From: "Avraham Schneider" <avri.schneider@...il.com>
To: "Some Guy Posting To Full Disclosure" <fd.leach@...glemail.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: e-Holocaust

you had the wrong assumption that he is used to thinking or at least knows
how to do that.

In order to answer your email in any intelligent manner, he will first have
to think. He does not have that skill.


On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Some Guy Posting To Full Disclosure <
fd.leach@...glemail.com> wrote:

> Okay e.hitler you mention you're attacking Israeli servers*, lets
> ignore the impact of that for a second. e.Hitler I want you to tell
> me, in more than a sentence, why you did that. Yeh, you failed to
> mention it in your original post. Tell me exactly how your cause makes
> you feel, and why.
>
> Now tell me how what you're doing makes a difference, that is: 'In
> what way does what you did help solve the problem that was bothering
> you?' (read it!: HOW does it make a difference, don't just tell me
> THAT it makes a difference, I want you to describe out a sequence of
> events.
>
> One more question. Do you think you're a good hacker (in terms of
> skill). I'm not saying you're good or bad, I've no idea. Further more
> I couldn't tell you what makes a good hacker, I don't know enough
> (any) of them. Do you think that this event here proves that, or at
> least aids proving it?
>
> *Btw defacements happen all the time - wanna do some research on
> pathetic skiddies? search the 'google dorks' included in web app
> exploits when they're published on milw0rm. They're actually competing
> for the servers (re-owning them, etc). Those 21 sites are a drop in
> the ocean compared to how many (even ant-Israeli, and the other side)
> defacements have happened.
> As for the paypal accounts and (so called) 'ownage' of individuals and
> their personal data, really this is another drop in the ocean for
> Israel (what its economy). Compare the well-being of these individuals
> with the number of people being killed in a WAR! Hell! Compare it to
> the holocaust, now argue with a WWII vet or holocaust survivor (are
> there any still living?) that you are e.Hitler, righteous internet
> warrior. Not only that, most CC companies give you the money you lost
> scams or stolen paypals. You can even cancel it before transactions
> are payed. Then there's insurance companies.
>
> Cheers.
>
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