Message-ID: <cd51a8c60901160459r2614cc06t5566a0abeb66dce5@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:59:24 +0200
From: Avraham Schneider <avri.schneider@...il.com>
To: Handrix <handrix@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk,
	"andrew. wallace" <andrew.wallace@...ketmail.com>
Subject: Re: Cyber War or just Cyber Protest?

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Handrix <handrix@...il.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Avraham Schneider <
> avri.schneider@...il.com> wrote:
>
>> Israel is fighting terrorists - those terrorists decide to attack websites
>> (since they wrongly believe it will help their cause)[1] - Israel cares
>> less.
>>
>
>> It is  Cyber-War because those terrorists are fighting a war against
>> Israel - and the 'Cyber' is just an additional front for this war - not an
>> important one, hence ignored by Israel, but it still is.
>>
>> If you call blowing yourself up in a bus, trying to kill as many
>> passengers as possible - 'protest' - than by your definition one may call
>> this 'Cyber-Protest' - but since normal people call those who practice
>> suicide bombings 'terrorists', by their definition it is called either
>> 'Cyber-Terrorism' - or since there is a war on terror - 'Cyber-War'.
>>
>> I hope this explains it for you.
>>
>
>
>  wich terrorisme you'are talking about ?
>  You do not understand the concept of terrorisme, the real terrorist is
> israel that kills children and women.
>  I hope that you will learn more about terrorisme.
>
First, I'd recommend you get some professional help with your English before
you post your opinions in English for everyone to read - it doesn't help
your credibility at all.

Israel does not target civilians, the terrorists who Israel is fighting
against, are.
Those terrorists that Israelis are fighting, are using those women and
children as human shields and use their homes as a hiding place and for
weapon storage.

Israel does everything it can to prevent civilian casualties, but it is
impossible under these conditions.

Israel has as a top priority the life and security of it's own citizens
(Muslim, Christian or Jew), and has to defend it's borders from the evil
attacks of those terrorists.

The fact that those terrorists fail to acheive high numbers of casualties on
the Israeli side and Israel is acheiving high numbers of casualties on the
Palestinian side is attributed to the fact that Israel is stronger - not
that Israel is wrong.

I hope that explains it for you.


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>
>>
>> [1]
>> http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=&hl=iw&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ynet.co.il%2Farticles%2F0%2C7340%2CL-3656862%2C00.html&sl=iw&tl=en&swap=1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:19 PM, andrew. wallace <
>> andrew.wallace@...ketmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> > 2009/1/14 andrew. wallace <andrew.wallace@...ketmail.com>:
>>> > Two sides fighting, a government and some other entity
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Jan G.B. <ro0ot.w00t@...glemail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > It's a term that describes an asynchronous warfare between sides
>>>
>>> *No two sides are fighting each other in Cyber*
>>>
>>> Conclusion: No Cyber War
>>>
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